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Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:34 pm
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:34 pm
Would a prime Johnny Cash from the 50s make it in Nashville today?

Let us say that Johnny Cash didn't exist in the 50s until today with his health being at his best. He decided that he would try his hand in Nashville.

Would the bass-baritone singer make it or would he be ignored?
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:38 pm to
Well Sturgill Simpson sounds like Waylon might be his daddy so I’m gonna say no chance
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:05 pm to
He was a great songwriter, so he would have a pretty good chance.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:26 pm to
Josh Turner who is also a bass-baritone like Cash did very well.

Cash never took voice lessons.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:37 pm to
I think talent transcends time. So Johnny would be a star regardless but his sound would be different
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

I think talent transcends time. So Johnny would be a star regardless but his sound would be different

Agree, his rhythms nowadays would probably be Earth shaking.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Red Boarman
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:38 am to
He would have stuck with Sun Records because the Million Dollar Trio had made Memphis the musical Mecca.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:01 am to
He would have a full band.

But you wouldn't have that chicka boom sound.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:03 am to
That is if in this life, Sun Records didn't exist and Nashville is his only choice.
Posted by Red Boarman
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:18 am to
Five Feet High and Risin and Pickin Time would not appeal to todays youth.

What would Nashville be today without Johnny's legacy? I don't think you are asking a question as much as making a point about today's country music.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Would a prime Johnny Cash from the 50s make it in Nashville today?

No; doubtful anyone from the 50s/60s/70s and most of the 80s wouldn't make it today.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:19 am to
Those songs wouldn't be released today but he had written songs and had cover songs that Sun Records, Columbia didn't allow him to release.

He would have more artistic freedom to release these songs that he wouldn't have had in the past.

I asked a question because I don't believe the old legends would make it today.

Some of these current country singers can't sing at all and write terrible lyrics. Everything is so dumbed down that anything shitty is now considered good vocals and music.

I do believe that strictly as a songwriter, he would make it but as a singer I'm not sure.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:33 pm to
A lot of talented artists regardless of genres don't make it no matter what time in history it is.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:08 pm to
I dunno if Johnny Cash would make it in Nashville today, but critics would lap him up and he would be big as, I dunno - Jason Isbell or Sturgill Simpson are now? He'd get good press and be able to play decent sized theaters.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:49 pm to
He would also fit in with current woke stuff.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:38 pm to
Being a star or a superstar are vague definitions.

If Cash did make it then I would put him on star level such as Isbell and Simpson as good examples.

I can't see him being more popular than that as his songs wouldn't have been appealing to the younger audiences.

This is why Cash had to change when he was with Rick Rubin. His popularity soared in the 90s with the younger audiences.

Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:26 pm to
Very doubtful.
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:29 pm to
Cash > Swift
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

No; doubtful anyone from the 50s/60s/70s and most of the 80s wouldn't make it today.




There's been an awful murder...
down on Music Row.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21185 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:19 pm to
That isn't saying much.

Cash is a superior vocalist despite never having any singing lessons.

Superior songwriter despite hundreds of his songs that didn't get released by Sun Records and Columbia.

Created his own sound despite having only rhythum guitar players and no drummer until the early 60s.

Became one of the biggest selling artists in a genre of music that wasn't appealing to broader audiences and yet was a cross over success.

Made one of the biggest comebacks as an artist and has arguably the best cover song in music history.

Broke through in the music industry that was much tougher then than now. No internet and barely any TV.

He for a brief time in the late 60s, was more popular than Elvis and the Beatles with his live prison performances.

He had his own show that helped launch the careers of new and unknown artists.

The only advantage Taylor Swift has is her music caters to the lowest common denominator of dumb fans who don't know any better. Thus her audience is much larger.

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