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Jimi Hendrix. Jeezus!

Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:04 pm
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:04 pm
Watching the documentary about him and the Atlanta Pop Fesival on Showtime. Honest to God, he's an artist who endures and whose work cannot be overstated.

Saw him from the front row live in Shreveport (of all places and, yeah, I'm an old guy). One of the best nights of my life.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:06 pm to
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Saw him from the front row live in Shreveport (of all places and, yeah, I'm an old guy). One of the best nights of my life.
Is that when he opened for The Monkees?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:32 pm to
No. The Soft Machine opened for him. He was the headliner.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:39 pm to
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No. The Soft Machine opened for him. He was the headliner.
In 67 he opened for "The Monkees" in Shreveport. I wanted to go but my parents would n't let me. I didn't understand why because I was a very mature 7 year old.

Down vote? Really?
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 10:06 pm
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:55 pm to
I went on a Senior trip on a bus with about 40 people in 1969, my senior year. About 4 of us left our Taft hotel room to walk down the street at night late, after we were supposed to go to sleep. In a nightclub, Jimi Hendrix was playing live. We looked in the door and saw about 3 songs. we were 17. We did look through the open door for a once in a lifetime view for a bunch of La. boys.
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/5/15 at 12:20 am to
Hendrix never played as single note that was not pure godhead. GOAT of all GOATs.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 9/5/15 at 1:01 am to
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Hendrix never played as single note that was not pure godhead.


While he was fairly described as a perfectionist in the studio, he was just the slightest bit "sloppy" at some live performances. I do not say this was either unintentional or detracts from the performances - I mean, at the time, it was difficult to see where Jimi ended and his guitar began - during the brief window - while not the most technically proficient (I would rate him in a top tier, technically, but not nearly at the top) of the elite players, but was attuned to the music at the genius level. He wanted live performances to take on the characteristic of a fingerprint or the uniqueness of a snowflake - so he intentionally went about crafting those.

And, I mean, Jimi understood how feedback, effects (which he benefited from a growing variety of effects options, but almost nothing compared to what guys have available today), acoustics, just everything going into making music worked - and the results speak for themselves.

For example, if you listen to the studio version of his cover of All Along The Watchtower (in the end, my favorite song of his) - he and Redding had a falling out. So, he recorded it when Redding was away. Dave Mason had been excited to work with Jimi - and started out on the 12-string acoustic. Jimi didn't care for Mason's playing - at least how it was coming out on tape. So he took over and Mason slid down to bass. Jimi didn't care for Mason's bass, either, so Mason moved to the recording engineer slot and Jimi plays everything on the record except the drums and percussion.

And it is crafted expertly - every effect, pause, etc., is placed perfectly - so well done it has influenced the way Dylan has played his own song ever since.

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GOAT


While highly subjective, and very often a popular choice, there is little question that Hendrix is the most influential six-string rock electric guitar player of all time, possibly excepting the other "Jimmy" (Page). I mean, there was a time before Jimi Hendrix, and the time since. That is a pretty significant bright line (and there were other cats in the window, even traditionally country guys like Glenn Campbell and Chet Atkins, along with Page, Beck, Clapton, the Kings, and so forth - but none of them leap out from history like Hendrix - and part of that is because he died young - but not all of it.)
This post was edited on 9/5/15 at 2:40 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/5/15 at 11:36 am to
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While he was fairly described as a perfectionist in the studio, he was just the slightest bit "sloppy" at some live performances. I do not say this was either unintentional or detracts from the performances - I mean, at the time, it was difficult to see where Jimi ended and his guitar began - during the brief window - while not the most technically proficient (I would rate him in a top tier, technically, but not nearly at the top) of the elite players, but was attuned to the music at the genius level. He wanted live performances to take on the characteristic of a fingerprint or the uniqueness of a snowflake - so he intentionally went about crafting those.


Agreed. There always passion and it came through clearly. Considering the technology available at the time of the film I watched last night (his performance at the 1970 Atlanta International Pop Festival), it was absolutely amazing.

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While highly subjective, and very often a popular choice, there is little question that Hendrix is the most influential six-string rock electric guitar players of all time, possibly excepting the other "Jimmy" (Page). I mean, there was a time before Jimi Hendrix, and the time since. That is a pretty significant bright line (and there were other cats in the window, even traditionally country guys like Glenn Campbell and Chet Atkins, along with Page, Beck, Clapton, the Kings, and so forth - but none of them leap out from history like Hendrix - and part of that is because he died young - but not all of it.)


Yep.

As an aside, when I saw him in Shreveport, the local police were not a happy bunch. All of the white hippie chicks were running to the stage and giving Hendrix flowers. Hendrix was not holding back on the "sexual" aspects of his performance. Shreves-ville had never seen anything quite like it. But the show and his playing absolutely blew me away.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/5/15 at 2:44 pm to
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As an aside, when I saw him in Shreveport, the local police were not a happy bunch.


Keep in mind that a decade before, everyone was a little tweaked by Elvis Presley and his swiveling hips. A lot of those same people were in charge (Louisiana Hayride ) when Jimi came around - although The Beatles probably changed things a little bit, all of the psychedelic cats brought a different vibe, and Hendrix was no exception - the racial component of it was certainly a factor, but Jimi wouldn't have been considered traditionally "black" at that point, more alien than anything else (like from another planet) - and about the only thing that would have been more shocking to Shreveport during that era would have been Black Sabbath.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26982 posts
Posted on 9/5/15 at 5:34 pm to
Imagine if he'd have lived to be as old as SRV ?

Or hell BB King. How much greatness could have come out before his hands failed him and he ends up a strummer on a stage with his band? Like BB
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33920 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 5:38 pm to
I still mess with my dad for leaving Woodstock right before Jimi went on.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 6:31 pm to
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While highly subjective, and very often a popular choice, there is little question that Hendrix is the most influential six-string rock electric guitar player of all time,


Everyone who came after Jimi could follow a clearly marked trail. When Jimi came along, he was going out where the busses don't run.

Has any other guitarist advanced the art as much as Jimi Hendrix?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 6:49 pm to
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For example, if you listen to the studio version of his cover of All Along The Watchtower (in the end, my favorite song of his) - he and Redding had a falling out. So, he recorded it when Redding was away. Dave Mason had been excited to work with Jimi - and started out on the 12-string acoustic. Jimi didn't care for Mason's playing - at least how it was coming out on tape. So he took over and Mason slid down to bass. Jimi didn't care for Mason's bass, either, so Mason moved to the recording engineer slot and Jimi plays everything on the record except the drums and percussion.


I love this version and it is radically superior to the original. However, the one bummer about it is the nothingness of the drums. You really can't hardly tell what is going on.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 6:51 pm to
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the racial component of it was certainly a factor, but Jimi wouldn't have been considered traditionally "black" at that point, more alien than anything else (like from another planet)


Eh. Hendrix explicitly fled the racial animus of the US for more favorable climes in London...and he found them. His hometown outside of Seattle loves to claim him now, but that love was not reciprocated.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89509 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 7:02 pm to
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Hendrix explicitly fled the racial animus of the US for more favorable climes in London.


NY was a hotbed of racism? Or is it more likely that he took up Chas Chandler on the offer to come to London and form a band, after the Rolling Stones' management and production folks passed (over the strong recommendation of Keith Richards)?

And, maybe THAT'S how he ended up in London?

I can't find an explicit quote on racism driving him out of the country - I find things like:

“The race problem is something crazy. The black riots in American cities, that you can read so much about in the papers currently, are just as crazy. What they are doing is irresponsible. I think that we can also live quietly, side by side. With violence; a problem like that has never been solved.”

"Well, it's so funny, because even some Colored people look at my music and say, `Is that white or black?' I say what do you want it ...you know, what are you trying to dissect that for? Try to go by the feeling of it. Just because it's loud."

Sounds like he was aware of the race issue, but not obsessed or oppressed by it.
This post was edited on 9/8/15 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:11 am to
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Traumatised by an impoverished upbringing in Seattle and stung by the systemic racism that dogged him as a “half-caste” child of African-American and Cherokee parents, Hendrix was exceptionally vulnerable to the rankest forms of exploitation.


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Hendrix left his hometown of Seattle because of racism, says Cross, his biographer. He grew up in a world of abject poverty and family turmoil that was typical of black families at that time. When he was a teenager, he was arrested on dubious charges of driving in stolen cars and given the choice of being jailed or enlisting in the Army, Cross says. He enlisted and became a paratrooper.

"What happened to Jimi would have never happened to a white male in that era," Cross says. "Jimi was run out of Seattle for being black."


LINK

The latter article also talks about the racism he suffered from black audiences that thought he was an Uncle Tom (including in Harlem).

I stand by my original statement:

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Hendrix explicitly fled the racial animus of the US for more favorable climes in London.
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