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re: How would you rank the first generation of Southern Rock bands?

Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:35 pm to
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:35 pm to
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This brings up a good question. What defines a Southern Rock band? Do they have to be from the southern U.S., or is defined by the music they play?


It's both a regional and stylistic brand of music.

The bands were all greatly influenced by either folk, country, blues, or bluegrass (usually several of those genres). The majority of bands typically employed multiple guitarists and their song lyrics dealt with blue collar subject matter.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:36 pm to
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Caught Up in You, and Hold on Losely are fricking southern rock classics.


Great to listen to driving down the interstate with the top down. LOUD!


I still don't understand some of you who think what someone LIKES equates to anything other than what they like.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:37 pm to
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2008, I think.

But my dad saw them with me, and he saw them in Baton Rouge way back when they were popular and he said it wasn't much better


Well of course they wouldn't sound as good circa 2008. The majority of those groups no longer have more than a couple of the original members still playing with them.

I think they are gritty and heavy, but they are definitely a few steps behind most of their predecessors (e.g. Outlaws, Blackfoot, Marshall Tucker Band, etc.) when it comes to songwriting.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:40 pm to
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Bands like The Band and Little Feat are not from the South, but I think an argument can be made that they play in the genre of Southern Rock, particularly Little Feat. The Band would probably fall more into Americana (whatever that is, lol).
True "Southern Rock" (the genre of the '70s) is simply screeching, bombastic redneck metal, perfectly personified by Molly Hatchet and "Flirtin' With Disaster".

Yesterday, Journey/Styx/Boston/Kansas, today Redneck Metal. It's like the demons of my childhood refuse to die...
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:43 pm to
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Well of course they wouldn't sound as good circa 2008.

See, normally this would be the case, but Marshall Tucker Band opened for them and their show was surprisingly pretty good. But that's what I would expect from a mid to lower top tier Southern Rock band
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:46 pm to
Listen up you old cheesedick

Old southern rock fricking sucks. Its just what had to happen so we could have the incredible artists that we do now

1. Kings of Leon
2. Drive By Truckers
3. Lucero
4. Kid rock

Are better than anything of your list. That shite is for old terds that still listen to classic rock radio
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:48 pm to
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See, normally this would be the case, but Marshall Tucker Band opened for them and their show was surprisingly pretty good. But that's what I would expect from a mid to lower top tier Southern Rock band


Their music certainly lacks the depth of their peers, but they still have a few quality songs.

What makes them difficult to enjoy at times is the vocals of Danny Joe Brown. He's not exactly a high-quality singer.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:49 pm to
Do you even better than ezra?
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:53 pm to
Can someone give us a new wave southern rock tiers?

I'd have to think Kid Rock, Jason Isbell, Zac Brown Band, Whiskey Myers, and Lucero would be ranked highly
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:00 pm to
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No doobie brothers?


In what way do the Doobie Brothers constitute as southern rock?
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:34 pm to
1. ABB - I just don't see how there's any debate about this.
2. Widespread Panic - I know the MB as a whole hates this band but for the life of me I don't know why.
3. Little Feat - How did you manage to leave this one off the list?
4. Gov't Mule - They're southern and they're rock; I'm just not sure if they're southern rock.
5. CCR - I'm torn as to whether this is actually southern rock also.
6. The Radiators - They actually remind me of Little Feat in some ways.
7. Big Daddy Love - Maybe more bluegrass than rock but they're definitely southern.
8. Outlaws - GG&HT is such a great song but it's awful how they never gave a bit of credit to James Brittain for the lyrics. Hughie Thomasson took full credit for writing that.
9. 18 South - Not sure if they're even still around anymore.
10. Drive By Truckers - Maybe more country or alt. country than southern rock.

CDB & MTB, I'll give them credit for putting out some good music but I just never really cared for them.

The rest of that, Molly Hatchet, .38 Special, etc. were all crap. ZZ Top isn't even SR in my opinion. Definitely not southern and more blues than rock.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:43 pm to
Is Alabama southern rock?
Posted by Thurber
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:43 pm to
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1. Lynyrd Skynyrd
2. Allman Brothers Band (musically superior but I prefer Skynyrd's overall body of work)

That doesn't make sense.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:45 pm to
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Is Alabama southern rock?
I would lean this more towards country but I do enjoy me some Alabama
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:55 pm to
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That doesn't make sense.


The musicianship of the Allman Brothers members is superior, but Lynyrd Skynyrd has a greater overall song quality.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:56 pm to
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I would lean this more towards country but I do enjoy me some Alabama


I was just coming to say the same thing. They are commercial country if anything.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:03 pm to
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Kid rock


I like him but he writes stuff that ends up on truck commercials for crying out loud.

Not "quality" stuff.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:05 pm to
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MountainTiger


The majority of the bands you listed are not part of the first generation of southern rock.

quote:

4. Gov't Mule - They're southern and they're rock; I'm just not sure if they're southern rock.


Of course they're southern rock. Warren was a member of ABB and the majority of their songs adhere to the southern rock ethos.

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ZZ Top isn't even SR in my opinion. Definitely not southern and more blues than rock


So Texas isn't part of the South?

They certainly are very bluesy, but songs like "Tush", "La Grange", and "Beerdrinkers and Hellraisers" are definitely part of the southern rock catalog.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:15 pm to
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The majority of the bands you listed are not part of the first generation of southern rock.

Then you should have defined what you meant by 1st generation. If you're going to limit the list to bands from the 60's & 70's then there's only one band on it.

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So Texas isn't part of the South?

No.

quote:

They certainly are very bluesy, but songs like "Tush", "La Grange", and "Beerdrinkers and Hellraisers" are definitely part of the southern rock catalog.

Disagree
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 6:21 pm
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:21 pm to
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Then you should have defined what you meant by 1st generation.


I would expect people to exercise their brains and determine that bands which emerged post-1990 obviously wouldn't be lumped in with those from the '70s.

Two decades difference is at least a generation apart, particularly in musical evolution.

quote:

No.


How is Texas culturally not akin to the rest of the South?

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Disagree


I'll accept your disagreement if you can make a solid case for why ZZ Top's sound does not relate to southern rock. Their music is a derivative of blues and country, and both are considered influences of southern rock.
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