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Guitarists, check out this old box

Posted on 7/9/17 at 12:02 am
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 12:02 am
This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 12:08 am
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 12:07 am to
An older fella at my church mentioned he has an old Gibson, I told him I'd love to see it sometime. Turns out, it's a 1936 Gibson J35. I was completely blown away by it, the volume and depth of tone was unlike any guitar I've ever played.
This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 12:14 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27004 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 7:34 am to
Idk man. That's a lot of wear on that top.


I'll give you tree-fiddy. CASH!!
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:17 am to
Nice.

Would love to play it.
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:26 am to
I broke out in a sweat soon as he opened the case. It could use a little work, but the sound was incredible. I've played plenty of post-war stuff, nothing compares...not even close.
This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 10:27 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27992 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:04 pm to
Dang.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

I broke out in a sweat soon as he opened the case. It could use a little work, but the sound was incredible. I've played plenty of post-war stuff, nothing compares...not even close.


Never ever refinish or replace anything on a vintage guitar other than what needs to be done to make it structural sound and playable. I have a couple of vintage guitars which are worth a fraction of what they should be because someone thought they should look pretty and refinished them.
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:25 pm to
The only thing it really needs is a bridge reset, showing a very small gap on one end. There is a bit of "belly" behind the bridge, but it isn't affecting intonation very much, if at all. The neck is straight, and dead-flat. It hasn't been restrung in over ten years, and still sounds amazing.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1240 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 7:34 am to
Some belly behind the bridge due to age is common and could/should be expected for that age, particularly in the Gulf South's high humidity. If action and intonation aren't significantly affected, no big deal, let it ride.

On the bridge gap, I wouldn't necessarily reset it for one small end gap on a bridge ear - it's the back length of the bridge where the cause for concern exists. Tell your buddy to just keep an eye on it and if the gap starts spreading, particularly to the back of the bridge, that's when you pursue the reset. A tech/luthier who knows what they're doing should be able to not only save the bridge and saddle but also preserve the footprint and finish around it, aka invisible repair.

Really, REALLY cool piece, I'm green with envy!
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27992 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 8:49 am to
Tommy Shepard had 1 for sale at his shop in Huntsville a while back,a later model,maybe early 50s, He asked me 3grand for it. To be honest, I wasn't impressed with the tone of that one at all.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10944 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:19 am to
If I have it right (?) Gibson made a series of mistakes with their acoustics staring in late 50's that hampered not only sales but sound. Still isn't there a big difference between pre-war and 50's models of anything?

Nice looking guitar, you buying or just enjoying?

Would be interesting to look inside at the bridge plate, like Mister.Fretshack said it might be nothing, but a light and mirror look around inside might be worth the time.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27992 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:56 am to
Yes, Pr-war guitars are much better,probably because of more actual hand work.WW2 brought about a huge leap in production technology that changed many industries. There was also a decline in wood quality that was available I think.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1240 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:07 pm to
You are correct. World War II put an incredible demand and subsequent heavy harvesting on Adirondack spruce, which was used for aircraft parts like propellers. It was the top of choice by Martin prior to the war. Sitka spruce is more common today. Not bad but not the same. On that note, Brazilian rosewood (sides, back, fingerboard) is in the same category as ivory and can only be re-purposed, not harvested, so it is also not as obtainable as it used to be. Then you mix in old-growth woods from the mid 20th Century versus new growth wood that is prominent today, mix in changes in design and construction techniques over the decades, and oh yeah, the idea that those pre-war guitars are all over 70 years old and have well seasoned, stabilized and crystalized cell structures ... there are simply A LOT of individual and complimentary contributing factors. And you can't ignore the hype and marketing of "pre-war" just like you can't ignore "pre-CBS" as it pertains to Fender, "McCarty-era" as it pertains to Gibson, etc. It's Marketing 101.
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 7:51 pm to
Wish I could buy it, but it was his uncle's guitar, not for sale. His uncle played in a group called The Strawberry Pickers, they traveled with Big Jim Folsom when he was running for governor back in the 40s.
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 7:56 pm to


The Strawberry Pickers with Big Jim Folsom.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 5:50 am to
Great picture.Great knowledge being dropped.Great Thread.

Bump.
Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:45 pm to
This guy also has a 1962 Gretsch Tennessean. He told me Sunday we'll get together at his house soon and play all his old guitars.
I'll definitely take pics.
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