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re: Eric Clapton's Jazzfest Performance

Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by danman6336
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:50 pm to
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what the frick does this have to do with phish
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:56 pm to
I had fun b/c I was with friends, at JF, perfect weather, a legend was playing, all that

but it wasn't overly inspiring. It wasn't terrible either

Cocaine was pretty good. It got some folks moving
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:59 pm to
Clapton just needs to start hitting the booze and smack again, hard.
Posted by Wrenchruh
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:13 pm to
Eric Clapton is the single most overrated musician of our lifetime. Jack Bruce was the main songwriter for Cream. Duane Allman wrote the signature lead lick for "Layla" and played all the sweet slide work on that song. Jim Gordon wrote the piano coda. What did Clapton do? He wrote some whiny arse lyrics about wanting George Harrison's wife. The guitar solo in Harrison's "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" was probably his peak IMO. Everything else attached to his name that is worth a damn, he gets way to much credit. Everything that he deserves credit for, sucks.

Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:15 pm to
Clapton is pretty awesome
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:45 pm to
U mad?

How Long was probably the highlight. And that's not even a Clapton song.

Cocaine was good. I called it the second that guitar solo before it started. That was a pretty fun drunk moment.

I thought it was a good show.

Not close to Billy Joel last year. Who killed it. But good.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20507 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:52 pm to
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Eric Clapton is the single most overrated musician of our lifetime. Jack Bruce was the main songwriter for Cream. Duane Allman wrote the signature lead lick for "Layla" and played all the sweet slide work on that song. Jim Gordon wrote the piano coda. What did Clapton do? He wrote some whiny arse lyrics about wanting George Harrison's wife. The guitar solo in Harrison's "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" was probably his peak IMO. Everything else attached to his name that is worth a damn, he gets way to much credit. Everything that he deserves credit for, sucks.



Chill out, bro.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21590 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:01 pm to
Clapton is the man. You sound like an idiot. I guess he just happened to be in the right place at the right time the past 40 years, right?

Clapton was the guitar god before Hendrix. He was one of Jimi's biggest direct influences.
No one is claiming he is the greatest songwriter. He does have some gems like "Badge" , which in turn created the melody and bridge to "Here Comes the Sun."

Anyone who bashes Clapton needs to listen to Derek and the Dominos Live at Fillmore and get back to me. His tone alone is a thing of beauty.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20507 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:07 pm to
Yea, his early work is great. All the adult contemporary stuff he puts out nowadays, meh.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63520 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:51 pm to
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Eric Clapton is the single most overrated musician of our lifetime. Jack Bruce was the main songwriter for Cream. Duane Allman wrote the signature lead lick for "Layla" and played all the sweet slide work on that song. Jim Gordon wrote the piano coda. What did Clapton do? He wrote some whiny arse lyrics about wanting George Harrison's wife. The guitar solo in Harrison's "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" was probably his peak IMO. Everything else attached to his name that is worth a damn, he gets way to much credit. Everything that he deserves credit for, sucks.


Hmmm, get an education and grow up. I can tell with a glance that you know little about 1) the genesis and true inside workings of Cream, 2) the recording and production of Layla (And Other Assorted Love Songs), 3) the musicianship and creative input of Jim Gordon, Bobby Whitlock (who, along with Duane Allman, was the real secret weapon on that record . . . and who would dispute the claim that Gordon wrote the coda), and Carl Radle on the aforesaid Layla, 4) Clapton's progression as a musician.

Clapton can sometimes phone it in, but that is rare. I've seen the guy live probably 6 or 7 times, and each time was different. The two best were his tour with Mark Knopfler on second guitar and his straight, unadorned blues set at House of Blues. Well, then there was that acid dosed experience I had seeing him live at City Park with Yvonne Edelman on background vocals before you were born, but that's another story.

To suggest that Clapton is overrated is silly. Oh, and if you really want to know about Duane Allman (my favorite guitarist, probably) and his contribution to Layla and music generally (including the Muscle Shoals sessions with Pickett and others, check out One Way Out (the biography of the Allman Bros).
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 12:53 am to
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Clapton is pretty awesome


Among other things, I love "Lay Down Sally" and his cover of "I Shot The Sheriff".

I'm pretty sure I wore out my copy of his live double album "Just One Night".
Posted by NOLAbaby
CumTown
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 3:55 am to
If you thought Clapton was boring then you do not appreciate a legendary ax man at work. Go back to listening to One Direction and Miley Cyrus you quaker.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15046 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:52 am to
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The crowd did not sound into it at all, and most of the people around me were barely paying attention.

Did you really expect that a gaggle of 60 year olds sporting Tommy Bahama shirts and fanny packs would be high energy party animals?
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15046 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 7:59 am to
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Eric Clapton is the single most overrated musician of our lifetime. Jack Bruce was the main songwriter for Cream. Duane Allman wrote the signature lead lick for "Layla" and played all the sweet slide work on that song. Jim Gordon wrote the piano coda. What did Clapton do? He wrote some whiny arse lyrics about wanting George Harrison's wife. The guitar solo in Harrison's "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" was probably his peak IMO. Everything else attached to his name that is worth a damn, he gets way to much credit. Everything that he deserves credit for, sucks.


TRUTH TO POWER

Clapton was an incredibly talented studio musician who somehow fell arse-backwards into becoming a famous frontman. The kind of thing that could only have happened in the mid-60s. His work with the Bluesbreakers and Cream was legendary; the solo on White Room was like nothing else that existed in its time. But that doesn't mean we need to be subjected to 30 years of listening to him halfassedly warbling "iiiifff I saaaaaw you in heeeeeaaaaveeeen" in half-time.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63520 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:06 am to
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. But that doesn't mean we need to be subjected to 30 years of listening to him halfassedly warbling "iiiifff I saaaaaw you in heeeeeaaaaveeeen" in half-time.


If that's the only thing he was doing, I'd agree. But it's not the case in the shows I've seen.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 8:56 am to
His Crossroads events are pretty kick arse.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15046 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:21 am to
On the same note, John Hiatt closed with "Riding with the King." He made some self-deprecating comments about how he had first recorded that song in 1983 but it took that guy over there playing on the big stage to make it a hit, which is why that guy's on the big stage and Hiatt's not.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:28 am to
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No one is claiming he is the greatest songwriter. He does have some gems like "Badge" , which in turn created the melody and bridge to "Here Comes the Sun."


I would say that Harrison wrote Badge even though it is a "collaboration."
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:06 am to
Clapton on a "off day" is better than anything ever released in today's "music".
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:46 am to
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The one a few years ago did suck. The one last year was good. The key is whether or not there's another guitarist. If there isn't, it's pretty pedestrian.

I've definitely found this to be the case with Clapton. If he's got somebody else with him, like Winwood, Knopfler, Trucks, etc.) then he's awesome. If not then he has a tendency to mail it in.
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