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re: Drummer Talk: setups & hardware discussion/questions

Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:22 am to
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3467 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:22 am to
Fun!

Drums:

DW Collectors in Santa Fe Turquoise

Main Snare: Gretsch New Classic Maple 6" x 14"
Snare: DW Collectors Maple 5" x 13"
Kick: 18" x 22" (virgin)
T1: 8" x 10" (which I rarely use)
T2: 9" x 12"
FT: 13" x 16"

Cymbals:

14" Meinl Byzance Medium Hats
20" Paiste 602 (ca. 1975-ish)
18" Paiste Signature Dark Crash
17" Paise Signature Dark Crash

Heads:

Snares: Evans HD Dry Batter/Hazy 300 snare-side
Toms: Evans EC2 Clear Batter/Resonant Glass
Kick: Evans EMAD Clear (DW muffler pillow inside drum, touching only the resonent head) I have a 10-year-old Remo Fiberskyn on the resonant side of the kick drum...because I think it looks cool.

Hardware:

Kick Pedal: DW 5000 Accelerator
Hi-hat/snare/tom stands: DW 5000
Throne: Roc-N-Soc (with backrest)

Soft bags by Protection Racket
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28259 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:21 pm to
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Oswald


Just who I've been waiting for! You have any experience with S-Hoops? I really wanna change my hoops on my snare but I can't decide between cast or S-Hoop.
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3467 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

S-Hoops


Sadly...I haven't made the plunge, although I am intrigued. I'm still soldiering on with the original die-cast hoops that were on both of my snare drums when I bought them.

My die-cast hoops are pretty tough (I used to be a really heavy hitter, making every single snare note a pile-driving rimshot) and have held up remarkably well over the years.

I'd love to hear how the S-Hoops perform, though...
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 1:05 pm to
I'm thinking about going with a die-cast hoop on my snare. All I've ever used was triple-flange.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28259 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

(I used to be a really heavy hitter, making every single snare note a pile-driving rimshot)

Guilty
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3467 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:07 am to
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Guilty


We've all done it, I'm sure. I used to think that, if I finished a gig and there wasn't dried blood on my sticks and drumheads, I hadn't properly "rocked out".

Now, though...I get irritated if I break a sweat at all during a gig or if I don't get a half-dozen gigs out of a pair of drum sticks.

Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28259 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:42 am to
quote:

I'm thinking about going with a die-cast hoop on my snare. All I've ever used was triple-flange.


Same here. I've tried tons of different tricks to focus my snare's tone a little but I haven't had any luck. I'm 99% sure I'm going with the s-hoops but die cast is tempting.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:51 am to
My sticks never last very long. I like the feel of thin sticks. Vic Firth Steve Jordan's
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3467 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

I like the feel of thin sticks


Me, too. I use the Vic Firth SD4 Combo. It's a maple stick and heavy-hitting is a bad idea. With a hickory stick, I can always feel it about to give way, but...the SD4 is fine one second and, with zero warning, in two pieces the next.

Those sticks played a large role in retraining me to be a much softer hitter...
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2776 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:05 pm to
Drums:
Gretsch Renown Maple - Cherry Burst
5x14 snare (w/ puresound snares, Aquarian heads)
18x22 kick (Aquarian batter, Gretch reso)
8x10, 9x12, 14x14 suspended toms (Aquarian single ply heads - coated top, clear bottoms)

Cymbals:
22" Bosphorus Traditional Light ride
20" Bosphorus Traditional Light ride
20" Bosphorus Master (ride used as crash)
19" Bosphorus Master (ride used as crash)
14" Bosphorus Traditional Dark high hats
10" Bosphorus Traditional splash

Hardware:
DW 5000 double kick pedals
DW 5000 hi hat pedal
all other stands Gibraltar double braced
Posted by Drumguy25
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jun 2011
219 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:29 pm to
I have a day job but I play at least 4 times a month for local cover bands on top of giving lessons out d my home. I use an electronic drumset to practice for the most part.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:00 pm to
What kind up music do you guys enjoying playing the most? Rock, jazz?

Since I'm a newb, I'm learning the rock I grew up with in the 70s and 80s, really enjoying Boston now, some Squeaze tunes too.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:01 pm to
I play a little of everything, minus metal. I've been on a jazz kick for the past few months.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28259 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:53 am to
quote:

What kind up music do you guys enjoying playing the most? Rock, jazz?


Everything minus metal. I rock the single pedal

I've been doing lots of pop and rap lately. It is fun and easy. Not my usual style but its a good break from the norm.
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3467 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 10:24 am to
Like Srbtiger06, I'm a single pedal-player, so I've never tried to land a metal gig. I play mostly '60s/'70s/'80s pop-rock stuff for the cover bands I'm in, plus modern P&W stuff for the church I attend.

I really want to do the jazz thing, but, I also want to venture out and try the double-kick thing...
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

I really want to do the jazz

Do it. I've found that jazz helps every single aspect of my drumming.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 3:05 pm to
So you and dude are playing some jazz now. Supposing you were into rock more earlier. Is it the safe assumption that the transition from rock to jazz is a natural one? My teacher/coach/instructor (depending on your labeling view) is into jazz too.
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
3467 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:31 pm to
Yeah, I taught myself how to play when I was in high school in the '80s, by listening to "hair metal" like Def Leppard, Dokken, Ratt; etc. as well as listening to my parents' old Boston, ZZ Top, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin records.

The only real jazz "playing" I do is if I set up my little Pearl Export kit (18" kick, 10" rack tom, 14" floor tom) that I keep in my office at home and put in the earbuds. I'm a long, long way from being ready to play with other jazz musicians.

I guess migrating from rock to jazz would be natural for someone like me, who started with rock. I guess, if a drummer started with jazz, it might be somewhat of a small challenge to learn to simplify and "play for the song" as most pop and rock drummers do... ??
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 5:00 pm to
The biggest key to playing jazz is listen to a shite ton of jazz music. Chances are, you've heard thousands of rock songs, but very few jazz.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 7:12 pm to
Yeh to both of you. I'm 48 (old, I know) and finally doing what I should be doing: playing drums! I can see the age thing to playing a little cooler tune, but I haven't experienced the pure sensation of rockin out yet, and I guess a few more years of jam will suffice my appetite. Then, and only then will I want to chill, I suppose.

Eta: thanks for starting this whole thread, srb. I'll have a whole lot more questions than opinion or experience to add! Hope you all will suffer this fool.
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 7:15 pm
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