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Beginning guitarists: acoustic or electric?

Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:41 pm
Nine years after picking up my first guitar I've finally bought an electric--a Gretsch to complement my six acoustic guitars.

Playing an electric guitar is much easier than an acoustic; I think most people would agree.

But I'm glad I learned on acoustic, primarily I guess because it builds up fretting finger and hand strength. It's also harder to make fast, clean bar chord changes on an acoustic, which builds endurance--and perseverance!

What do you guitar players out there say--should a beginner begin on acoustic guitar? Electric?

Or whatever comes to hand?

Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:45 pm to
electric.

Having to start on a box is a myth, and discourages many would-be players as they are harder to fret and sound right without callouses...which never come because you get discouraged too early on.
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
2816 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:59 pm to
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which never come because you get discouraged too early on.

Could be.

I guess I never had that problem; it took awhile to get comfortable playing, but I could see from the beginning how daily practice would pretty much guarantee reasonable competence on the instrument.

Here's another way to overcome discouragement: begin with a purpose, specifically to learn a simple song you really like.

For me it was Dylan's You Ain't Goin Nowhere. It took me maybe 2-3 weeks to learn how to play it, but once I did I was hooked.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:44 pm to
I think to answer your question, you must first answer the question of what you are wanting to play. If the guitar is going to be your musical instrument of choice to learn music, that is music theory, etc... then pick up a classical guitar.

If you're just wanting to play songs, then buy the instrument most suited to the songs you want to play. You want to play Wonderwall? Get an acoustic. You want to play rock, jazz, etc, then go with electric.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:12 pm to
Why not do both which is what I did. Having both a decent acoustic and a Fender Squier strat or one of the cheap Epiphones would not break the bank for most people when starting out. Acoustic and electric can almost be two different instruments, learning to play cleanly while producing good tone and being loud on electric requires mastering techniques that you will only get by playing electric, same for chording and flatpicking on acoustic.
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
2816 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:25 pm to
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If you're just wanting to play songs, then buy the instrument most suited to the songs you want to play. You want to play Wonderwall? Get an acoustic. You want to play rock, jazz, etc, then go with electric.

That's what I did. I wanted to write folk and folk-rock stuff, so an acoustic was the right choice for me.

I could be wrong, but I bet most guitarists enjoy playing both types of guitars. But even if I had been into rock writing from the beginning, I'm still glad I began exclusively on acoustic.

Whatever works I guess--and that flexibility is just one of the many virtues of the guitar. What an endlessly fantastic instrument!
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6704 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:00 pm to
Whichever one is the reason you WANT to play guitar. In other words: the one that will make you play it more.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:20 pm to
For learning guitar I always recommend an electric. The difficulty of playing acoustic can discourage someone completely.

Also, you get more bang for your buck with an electric at low budgets. A $100 electric can sound good. A $100 acoustic sounds like garbage.

Also electrics are quiet so you can practice without disturbing others.

After a few months of learning the guitar your fingers will be stronger and you'll have a better idea of the type of music you want to play. Then you can shell out a few hundred bucks on a decent acoustic (which will be easier to play since you have some calluses built up) or a few hundred for a good amp to make that electric sing.

I never learned guitar until I was 20 because I'd only had access to my mom's acoustic and it was frustrating as hell. Some acoustics have terrible action. The first time I picked up an electric I was amazed. I could concentrate on learning chords, picking, and strumming instead of trying to just fret the strings. And I was building up my muscles and fingertips at the same time.

I use .10s on my electric and I have an acoustic now. But I never would have even tried if I had to start out on acoustic.
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6154 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:13 pm to
I learned on acoustic, because I was passionate about learning the guitar regardless of acoustic or electric. For me, learning on acoustic made playing electric easy. I'm also primarily a finger stylist on acoustic these days.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 11:15 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38685 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:35 pm to
I tell people to get a cheap acoustic to learn on. But I'm not going to argue with you if you say get an electric.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 7:45 am to
Just my 2 cents...if you learn on an acoustic, then playing an electric is even easier (so you can easily make the transition to both). If you learn on an electric, you can still make the transition to acoustic, but it is more difficult. If you don't discourage easily, then learn on an acoustic. If you have a lot of quit in you, then you will want to start with an electric.

I started on a Yamaha classical when I was 12. After a Summer's worth of lessons, I didn't pick another guitar up for 5 years. Now I primarily play acoustics, but I love to play both. If I had started on something easier, I think I wouldn't have lost that 5 years of learning.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26989 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:21 am to
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Also electrics are quiet so you can practice without disturbing others.



This. You can plug your electric into a phone and use earbuds and WAIL! right next to your family who have no idea.

Acoustic? I annoy the shite out of my family. They are just too nice to say so.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:58 am to
I plug headphones into my amp and they just heard strings popping on my bass.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:58 pm to
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I tell people to get a cheap acoustic to learn on. But I'm not going to argue with you if you say get an electric.


I guess folks have different theories on this topic; I don't recommend getting a cheap guitar (acoustic or electric). 99.99% of the cheap acoustics out are difficult to play and usually sound like crap. They rely on bulky necks for stability (most don't have a truss rod and will have varying degrees of neck bow) and do not have proper bracing.
As for a cheap electric, they're easier to play; most have thinner neck because they do incorporate a truss rod and the sound depends largely on what you're running it through.

Like I said, different schools of thought.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61269 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 1:08 pm to
Now that you have an electric guitar it is imperative that you learn how to shred.

Here's Eric Clapton to show you how.

Eric Clapton shreds
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38685 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 1:40 pm to
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I don't recommend getting a cheap guitar (acoustic or electric). 99.99% of the cheap acoustics out are difficult to play and usually sound like crap.


I and most everybody I know learned on a cheap acoustic. The neck and action I learned on were fine. Yes it sounded like crap but so did I....still do.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33189 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:36 pm to
A very important "but" on my advice on beginning with an electric first:

Do NOT get one with a floating trem. System like a Floyd Rose and the like. Stay away from the whammy bar...you will NEVER keep it in tune and it will drive you batty until you understand how to match spring/ string tension.

This takes alot of trial and error to master.

Stick to a fixed bridge Gibson, Epiphone, or anything with string-thru body design.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20018 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 10:09 am to
Acoustic. Try and get a student guitar, not one that only plays well with top of the neck open string chords. I actually learned on an old Gibson student guitar. It took a while, and sure at times it is downright difficult to play, but you got to get your reps in.

I read something from Keith Richards recently, and he recommended doing the same. With an acoustic, you can really learn how to get certain sounds out of a guitar, or what it truly sounds like when you play a certain way. It becomes easier to distinguish what other guitar players are doing, or what effects are added if you know what it sounds like bare-bones.

Also, you will find that no one wants to hear you play an electric guitar, especially while you are learning.
But seriously, you will not ant to turn an amp up super loud for the sake of other people, and won't be "all-in" while you play because it could get loud. Lastly, it has taken almost 10 years, but I can now label myself as a guitar player, and as a a guitar player, electric should only be played through a tube, and should be played loud.

Good luck learning, don't give up, pick that sucker up every day. And as someone above me said, my best piece of advice is to practice with purpose. Learn chords, their names, and relationships between notes; don't be intimidated, and you will be better for it. Again, I spent at least 5 years embarrassed to play in front of pretty much anyone...whatever your learning curve, just beast through it and one day you will find yourself impressed with how far you have come.

ETA: get a cheap resonator. I just realized I play mine like 90% of the time because it has qualities of both types of guitars. Can defitely get a little more snarl out of one than a standard acoustic.
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 9:06 am
Posted by Frank Black
the dawn of the new millenium
Member since Mar 2004
5281 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Eric Clapton shreds
Love those shreds videos.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33189 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:11 pm to
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Keith Richards recently, and he recommended doing the same.


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