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You Are What You Eat (Twin Experiment) - Netflix

Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
1881 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:01 pm
Great premise. Take two identical twins and put them on different diets for 8 weeks - omnivore v vegan. Test vitals, fat, etc at the end.

Unfortunately, 3/4 of the show is anti-meat, food “apartheids” (that was an actual phrase), etc.

Spartacus (NJ-D) makes appearances and NYC mayor.

I’m fast-forwarding through most of it until the results.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 10:02 pm
Posted by DeboseKnows
Gainesville
Member since Dec 2012
1721 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:08 pm to
The anti meat bullshite made me stop watching. Lost interest.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33446 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:08 pm to
It's nothing more than vegan-funded nonsense. Don't waste your time. The results are meaningless for many reasons, but here's an example: the 2 different diets were NOT controlled for calories.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27614 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:41 pm to
We watched it to the end. Episode 1 set it up great. The premise was extremely intriguing. Then it all went to shite at the start of episode 2. 90% of it was just pure vegan propaganda with a snippet here and there of the twins.

Even the experiment part of it was biased and bunk from a science perspective. It was clear all of the doctors and professionals had their minds made up and well looking for their answers in the process. Just backwards as frick. The experiment was EXTREMELY uncontrolled. Even the demonstration of bacteria in the three different chicken samples was irrelevant because the "scientist" opened all three samples and handled them right next to each other. It was impossible for there to NOT be cross contamination. Then to add insult to injury their two high value commentators were incredibly liberal politicians. They even had an expert blame white flight for a lack of healthy food in cities.

fricking white people!

I was looking forward to the results after ep.1, but was incredibly disappointed.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9362 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:42 am to
I smelled the anti-meat bend about five minutes in and stopped watching. No telling who funded this thing.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23067 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:41 pm to
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No telling who funded this thing.
I got $20 on James Cameron
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69108 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:04 pm to
I drank milk and ate meat right after.
I'll never go full vegan but there are some benefits to eating more plants. That said. I am not giving up dairy or beef.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33446 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:47 pm to
Nina Teicholz obliterated it already:

quote:

Imagine if Cargill Meats launched a center at, say, Dartmouth University, designed to “realize the positive benefits of a carnivore diet” and “identify the animal-based foods to replace plants” for the betterment of all. The initiative is led by a professor who has been a carnivore for 40-plus years and whose most recent study—showing that a carnivore diet prevented heart disease by citing highly selective cholesterol criteria—was funded by a billionaire’s philanthropy devoted entirely to carnivore-related projects. Among them was a hit Netflix film promoting a carnivore diet, to which the billionaire had donated upwards of $1 million. The Dartmouth study publication discloses its foundation grant but says nothing about the philanthropy’s carnivore bias or the fact that the entire Dartmouth center itself is a Cargill Meat venture. (The carnivore professor does, however, report receiving funds from Cargill “outside the submitted work.”)

Surely a media take-down of such industry interference in science would ensue, noting these meat-industry conflicts and the surprising failure to disclose them by the meat-funded scientists.


quote:

Because Gardner and PBDI simply assume the health benefits of plant-based eating, they are no longer engaged in the scientific question that should interest us most: whether a vegan diet can be a healthful option for human health in the long term. For PBDI, science is evidently relegated to providing a fig leaf of legitimacy for the center’s advocacy objectives.

The fact that human health is not among PBDI’s priorities should ring alarm bells throughout the world of nutrition. The field already suffers from a lack of trust, as Gardner himself pointed out, due to the influence of food and pharma funding. Now, we learn that one of its most prominent scientists has acknowledged that his research on food is principally inspired not by health concerns– hence, fulfilling his obligation as a nutritionist -- but by animal rights, the environment, and labor issues. That this left turn into advocacy has not roused the interest of the media or top public health officials is perhaps because Gardner’s beliefs are aligned with their own. Still, Gardner was right in 2020: we should be troubled by the basic integrity of nutrition science and the obvious financial conflicts of interest present here. Should Stanford support a Beyond-Meat funded advocacy center masquerading as science, and should Gardner be deciding the U.S. Dietary Guidelines for the entire nation? We think not.


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Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60388 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:57 pm to
As soon as I saw this guy, I knew what was going to happen. I really wanted to watch this since I have twins. We didn’t make it through the first episode.

Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11881 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:56 am to
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Unfortunately, 3/4 of the show is anti-meat


quote:

I’m fast-forwarding through most of it until the results.


Do you really think they will report results that don't match up with their anti-meat stance?
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27752 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:19 am to
Vegan propaganda. Fully funded by them
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25066 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 9:33 am to
If humans had evolved to be strictly vegetarian we’d have massive rib cages & guts like gorillas. Because we’d need to eat huge amounts of plants to sustain ourselves.

We’re a different species thanks to our ancestors.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1612 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:07 am to
Posted by donut
Face, USA
Member since Jan 2004
3006 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:38 am to
I watched the Trailer and it looked interesting until I saw this stupid comment, "Every time you eat a steak, a little puff of smoke goes up in the Amazon"
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9207 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 11:52 am to
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It's nothing more than vegan-funded nonsense


There's another Netflix special called "Games Changers" I think that is the exact same playbook.

I started watching it with an open mind and a hope to learn some new nutrition advice. About halfway through their vegan speil they started playing the global warming card. That's when I realized, frick THIS shite, and turned it off.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18419 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:06 pm to
BioLayne has a great take on it on his Instagram account.

Yes, the vegan group had better results. They also consumed more fiber, less saturated fat, and on average 200 less calories than the other group. Those facts more than account for the positive changes in their biomarkers.

Is it possible that going vegan makes it easier to accomplish those goals? Maybe. I personally don't think so. But for some people, it might.

Still, with good dietary choices, meat eaters can have just as much of a healthy profile as vegans.

What I did not hear BioLayne discuss:

Does the documentary also account for the fact that veganism literally cannot provide all of the nutrients humans require without supplementation? And does it account for the fact that most people cannot afford nor have the accountability or education level to understand how to supplement their vegan diet with all of the nutrients they need?
Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
3497 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:07 pm to
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I drank milk and ate meat right after.




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