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re: What Sopranos death bothered you the most?

Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:36 am to
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Tracee was bad
she was bad, but things are relative...she didn't deserve to be beaten to death.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:37 am to
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:38 am to
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innocent people who were killed.
and lives ruined.
Posted by DivotBreath
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:38 am to
I am currently two seasons into my re-watch and while it is not a death, I find it uncomfortable to watch the bartender at the Bada-Bing constantly take a beating whenever someone gets pissed.
Posted by WarmBubble
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:41 am to
Paulie's mom
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:43 am to
you seem kind of emotional and preachy in here. i dont think anyone needs a reminder that people in the mafia, and specifically this show, are the best citizens in their community
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:44 am to
quote:

she was bad, but things are relative...she didn't deserve to be beaten to death.



I can see how my phrasing was poor on that one. I meant it was a hard scene and death to watch. That was the one that stuck with me the most in demonstrating what monsters the gangsters are. There's a pregnant woman who is beaten to death and all any of the characters care about is that the Bing was disrespected and ralph, a made man, was hit by Tony. A punch was more important than a woman and unborn child's life.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:46 am to
i'm not preaching, it's what I enjoyed about the show

it would've been so easy to make tony the anti hero, but they didn't. you relate to him, you empathize with him (because at the end of the day, his problems are relatable), but you never root for him or condone him.

but what death bothered me the most? it was honestly the minor and ancillary characters. chase has them there for a reason, so if anyone is preaching it's him.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:50 am to
paulie's mom's (really aunt) friend that he robs, she catches him and he murders her

another.

the tree trimmer who gets caught up between paulie and what's his face

beansie...he's a criminal, but jesus you feel bad for him.

the green groves owner...and we're not even sure he was yapping, it was just the word of junior
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 10:55 am
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:52 am to
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the waiter paulie and chris murder



I tried but couldn't feel bad for this guy at all. Maybe it wasn't obvious to him that he was waiting on a crew of gangsters, but he interrupts Paulie and Chris when they are in the middle of a heated argument in a dark alley.

You do have a good point with this:

quote:

always the innocent people who were caught in the wake



Even though he didn't die you always felt for the landscaper who gets his arse kicked by Feech, then gets his business cut in half and ordered to cut Tony and Johnny Sac's lawns for free.

Another one I thought of was the dumb kid who tried to drive-by Chris and gets executed by Tony and Pussy. He had it coming but the actual execution scene is fricking terrible.

Chris's writer friend that he executes was a tough one too. Chris tortured that guy for years and winds up taking the bullet because Chris is pissed at Tony for something.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am to
quote:

A punch was more important than a woman and unborn child's life.


And they're all good Catholic boys, too.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:56 am to
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Chris's writer friend that he executes was a tough one too. Chris tortured that guy for years and winds up taking the bullet because Chris is pissed at Tony for something.
oh yeah, he was fricked just for knowing chris

either he listens and he's killed later for what he knows

OR

he says he doesn't want to know and gets killed for the insult (which is what happens)
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:59 am to
I guess the most awful is Adriana because these are people she trusted, she was put in an impossible spot first by them, then by the feds

the bruises on her face, the tears, the looks of fear and horror and syl just looks stone cold as he kills someone who is "family"
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:04 am to
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the bruises on her face, the tears, the looks of fear and horror and syl just looks stone cold as he kills someone who is "family"



While calling her a count
Posted by DelU249
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:10 am to
and she's crawling away, in like a desperate infantile state (reminds me of the bevalaqua? murder)

awful but i'm being preachy for feeling the emotion that I was meant to feel watching the show.
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:15 am to
quote:


but what death bothered me the most? it was honestly the minor and ancillary characters


I agree.

In my mind, if youre in that game(mafia), death is always part of it. I felt bad for some main characters but plenty of them you saw coming.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:22 am to
Chris's buddy JT.

Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:23 am to
I think they tried to make it easier for you to not like her character by giving her irritable bowel syndrome. Sort taking her sexiness away.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:23 am to
quote:

he says he doesn't want to know and gets killed for the insult (which is what happens)


Obviously, Tim Daly did a great job as J.T. Dolan - and his death is pretty arbitrary on Christopher's part - I always read that - he was too chickenshit to kill himself or Tony (the folks he was really mad at) so he externalized that to Dolan. No money in it. No reason to protect himself or family business. Dolan was a civilian. Just a bad, bad hit.

Oh, and I stumbled on this:

Alicia Witt (Amy Safir) - one of Spider's Hollywood connections/side pieces?



Was Alia in Lynch's Dune:




Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:24 am to
it's two fold for sure, the biggest being that they understand what they're getting into.

it's icing on the cake that they just happen to deserve it

and notice it was pussy that tony only ever felt true remorse from killing

tracee is just someone caught in between sylvio and ralph and she's the one who dies. tony feels bad, but he's over it pretty quick, and sylvio only sees the money he lost because he was juicing her (which is awful itself)

I don't think there's a show you could spend more time analyzing than the sopranos. it's really a show about choices though, so it lends itself to moral analysis and chase definitely makes a point of showing that while the giants battle, everyone else feels the consequences.
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