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re: Wayward Pines TV show (Fox )- discussion thread- HODOR only no spoilers

Posted on 6/12/15 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 9:07 am to
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Also the wife is kind of good looking. Don't know why but she kind of does it for me.


Up. Vote. I hope summer comes in Wayward Pines soon because I'm tired of her dressing like a homeless man every episode.
Posted by Armymann50
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 10:18 am to
That was just a strange show. Can't wait for two weeks. 25th i think
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 10:31 am to
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The teacher said last night that he foresaw the problem coming. I guess he got enough investors to buy in at that point, started the ark and a list of the chosen one's.

Did they say when they first started seeing the abbies? I find it hard to believe that this guy could not only figure out a genetic evolution (or devolving as the case may be) and its endgame a thousand years in the future, but then be able to convince the government enough to sanction basically kidnapping folks, freezing them, and then covering it up (it seemed like the Secret Service was in cahoots with him since they were obviously trying to cover up his wreck).

There's got to be more to this than just cryogenic chambers and devolution. I just don't see the government going along with this based solely on one guy predicting the end of the human race that won't probably happen for hundreds, if not thousands of years.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 10:34 am
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:35 pm to
No sooner did I ask questions than they get answered.

So the Doc, Sheriff & Nurse are/were all in on this from the earliest days? I wonder how they all tie together (especially the Sheriff since he didn't seem to have any medical experience).

We know the Abbies were around by 2095 (the date on the coin). I think that's a good approximate time to use for when they showed up (maybe go back another 50 years or so to give them time to grow their numbers enough to become an extinction-level threat). I'm willing to bet ol Doc is the one that created them in the first place.

We know there are lots more people in hibernation but they only seem to come out to keep the population at a certain level. Why? Why aren't they pushing to expand the boundaries of the WP project so they can bring out more people and work to reclaim the Earth?

They have a helicopter and firearms, why aren't they hunting the Abbies that come near the site?

What kind of precautions are in place in case an Abbie gets in?
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:17 pm to
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We know the Abbies were around by 2095 (the date on the coin).

I don't see how the date of the coin indicates when the abbies appeared. I thought the only purpose for the coin was to prove that the people in Wayward Pines were at a time in the future well after 2095.

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I'm willing to bet ol Doc is the one that created them in the first place.

This is what I'm thinking. I don't think the guy figured out that humans would devolve and wipe out the rest of the humans. I think he and the government created them to "thin the herd" so to speak, and create a better society.
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:47 pm to
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I don't see how the date of the coin indicates when the abbies appeared. I thought the only purpose for the coin was to prove that the people in Wayward Pines were at a time in the future well after 2095.


The date is significant because that's the last year they minted coins (the teacher mentioned this). In other words, that's around the time the shite hit the fan so hard that humanity itself went down the shitter. Think how far we would have to fall as a country for coins to never be printed again, then apply that to the entire world (as far as we know).
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:00 pm to
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The date is significant because that's the last year they minted coins (the teacher mentioned this).

I must've missed that she stated it was the last year they minted coins. I guess I really need to go back and rewatch the episode.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:01 pm to
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I find it hard to believe that this guy could not only figure out a genetic evolution (or devolving as the case may be) and its endgame a thousand years in the future, but then be able to convince the government enough to sanction basically kidnapping folks, freezing them, and then covering it up (it seemed like the Secret Service was in cahoots with him since they were obviously trying to cover up his wreck).


Don't blame the messenger. That's what teacher said.


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I'm willing to bet ol Doc is the one that created them in the first place.

This is what I'm thinking. I don't think the guy figured out that humans would devolve and wipe out the rest of the humans. I think he and the government created them to "thin the herd" so to speak, and create a better society.



That's a pretty solid theory. I agree that there has to be some pretty hardcore evidence for the Dr to garner that kind of support so early on.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:52 pm to
This is shamalammadingdong. I'm not taking anything at face value. Maybe it's the year 4000 maybe not. Who froze the Doc, who unfroze him? How is he still alive if he's been running this project from the beginning? Can he time travel? Maybe the town is in a time dialation bubble. I'm not convinced of anything yet. Why kill people for asking questions. Just tell people the truth, most would be grateful to be alive. Some things just aren't adding up.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:11 pm to
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This is shamalammadingdong. I'm not taking anything at face value. Maybe it's the year 4000 maybe not. Who froze the Doc, who unfroze him? How is he still alive if he's been running this project from the beginning? Can he time travel? Maybe the town is in a time dialation bubble. I'm not convinced of anything yet. Why kill people for asking questions. Just tell people the truth, most would be grateful to be alive. Some things just aren't adding up.


You're letting the chronology of the story-telling dictate to you the actual chronology of events.

Taking what we know at face value here's what probably happened...

As I was about to explain this, something didn't make sense...

The gal that was Reckon'd... She mentioned she was doing Y2K work in the area when she woke up in WP. Could it be that the Doc (along with major government help) had created this program in response to the collapse he thought Y2K would bring? If so, that puts planning back a bit but allows for a whole extra decade worth of abductees and is the only way her presence makes sense.

So going with this theory Y2K is a big bunch of nothing. Doc is able to BS the government for another decade but people are getting antsy about the costs of his program. In order to justify it he creates the Abbies.

Now that I am thinking on it more, it may have gone on much longer than that. The gimped real estate guy was roofied in the hotel room by the nurse, but the nurse did it when she was young and hot (per the guy's claim, and when he woke up she was old). Let's say she was 25. The city seems to have been up and running for around a decade or so (20 years max) due to how much the agent chick had aged. The nurse appears to be in her late 50's/early 60's and she abducted the real estate guy somewhere around 2000. So the program likely started somewhere in the 90's (around 95, but maybe as early as 1990).

So the Doc, the nurse and the guy that would become the Sheriff all work to bring people into the program and they do this for years. So when Doc is talking to Matt Dillon's partner, the partner is aware of the program and that the other agents are in hibernation already. He's concerned that the wife and kid are going to uncover something so he makes arrangements with Doc to have them brought in as well.




Here's where I was originally going, Bosceaux:

At some point Doc, Sherrif & Nurse all end up going into hibernation also. We'll see other stories of things they did in 2014, but those are all flashbacks.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted by LSUTigKyl
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:54 pm to
They said it was 4028 right? Is it a coincidence that this is exactly double the number 2014 (the year where show starts to take place)? Just something I wondered.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:03 pm to
Writers think they are being cute doing that. They'll double the date or make it an even 100 years or some shite like that. I doubt it means anything, although I really don't know.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 5:53 pm to
Who maintained the barrier to keep the abbies out. I really like this show but am kinda waiting for a Village like twist. 2K is a long damn time to hope your shite doesn't fail during the apocalypse.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 7:28 pm to
Ok, just did a rewatch. Here are the main points the teacher lady touched on:

1. Abbies are the result of a series of genetic mutations.

2. They evolved in a harsh environment.

3. Their DNA is only a half percent different from our.

4. Humans didn't become abbies overnight. "It took a long time, a very long time."

5. The quarters from 2095 is the last known relics from human civilization.

6. Civilization died out almost 2000 years ago.

So if the abbies evolution involved a series of mutations, was in a harsh environment, and took a very long time to happen, where were they evolving at? 80 years (from the original time of the people in Wayward Pines, to the fall of civilization) really isn't a long time when you are talking about evolution and genetic mutations. So I would think they were around some time before the project was started, or at least before 2015 when they started collecting people. They would have had to have been somewhere isolated in order to be able to evolve where no one would notice them, and it was apparently in a harsh environment.

Something seems off with the timeline in relation to the time it would have taken the abbies to evolve. Now I really think they were artificially created, and let loose on civilization. Or something else is actually going on.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 11:21 am to
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Some things just aren't adding up.

You've already said it best... it's Shamalamadingdong. A lot of things WON'T add up. Just enjoy it for what it is.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 11:28 am to
My thoughts, point by point:

1. Abbies are the result of a series of genetic mutations.

Sure... caused in a lab somewhere.

2. They evolved in a harsh environment.

Well, if in a cage somewhere in 2014 can be considered harsh.

3. Their DNA is only a half percent different from our.

Did they volunteer for that, or were they captured liked Ethan was?

4. Humans didn't become abbies overnight. "It took a long time, a very long time."

A lie.

5. The quarters from 2095 is the last known relics from human civilization.

They're as counterfeit as the rest of the money people are using as currency in Wayward Pines. And, oh, by the way, why are people having to buy groceries but get their houses free?

6. Civilization died out almost 2000 years ago.

A lie.


Posted by Murray
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 2:25 pm to
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Rex


If I promise to vote for Hilary, will you stop watching this show?
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 3:02 pm to
I thought Arlene (sheriff's assistant) looked familiar, and her former occupation per her dossier confirmed it.
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 3:20 pm to
To me it seems that the mutation was due to climate change and the earth rejecting the human species by creating a mutation that devolved our species into a state that allows for the regeneration of earth.. The doc figured out what was happening and convinced the government to create wayward pines as a reboot for the species.
This post was edited on 6/13/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted by LSUTigKyl
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 6:06 pm to
One thing I just remembered is when he would try to contact his wife in the earlier episodes he was still getting her voicemail and leaving messages. How is that possible?
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