Watched Looper again

Its been a while since I've seen it but holy shite its a fricking movie just watch it and don't worry about all that shite

It's a good movie that I don't regret watching. That said, I won't purchase it to add to my collection.

Look, I'm not pissed about it. I thought it was enjoyable. However, though I think a person should expect to suspend disbelief for time travel movies, this one requires a lot. The surgery scene in the warehouse is just ridiculous, if you think about it. And it's kind of unnecessary. Just kill the guy and be done with it. And the rainmaker kid story with the tk setup is a bit silly.

It just seems to have been very lazily written. And JGL is really, really overrated.

It's time travel. The very nature of the concept is convoluted and full of holes. Even Bruce Willis' character says as much in the movie.

That'd why Bruce and Jeff Daniel's character always so they don't want to talk about time travel shite.

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Time travel is invented in the future. It's only practiced by the mob, and the best use of it that these guys can think of is to secretly whack people they want gone? Seems like kind of a limited vision for something that has relatively endless possibilities.

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Agree.

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Also, there is a lot that is pretty difficult to accept. How is the guy who gets his limbs and nose cut off expected to still make it to that point in time and place if he's being mutilated in the past/present, especially since there's probably no way he's getting out of that warehouse after that night.

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It's a never ending loop. The mutilation only happened in this particular loop. In all previous loops, he carried out closing it by shooting his future self. We only witness one loop in the movie.

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Also, how is it that two different loopers use the same message-to-self tactic with the arrow on the wrist. JGL isn't aware that the other looper ever did that. Is this the textbook looper message to self procedure or something?

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It's been a long time since I've seen it. I don't remember the specifics.

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And of course, the paradoxes. If JGL killed himself before he met the Asian woman, he never would have wanted to go back and escape death in order to save the Asian woman. JGL shoots himself at the end and all that happens is that Bruce disappears? Actually, most of what is in the movie would never have happened

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That's exactly what happens. Everything that happened in the movie didn't happen. He broke the loop.


It's been a long time since I've seen it. I could be flat out wrong or misunderstood but this is how I interpreted it.

It looked like he only took himself out, but his actions and the woman and kid's memory of them remained. They're still out in the field, having survived the murder attempt. The kid still has the wound on his cheek.

Btw, who thinks the kid is still going to become the evil rainmaker? I do. Power corrupts and all that, and he seems to be an angry kid by design.

It's a movie that wows people, but it has practically no ability to stick for whatever reason.

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I was kind of not paying that much attention the first time I saw this. So, let me get this straight. Time travel is invented in the future. It's only practiced by the mob, and the best use of it that these guys can think of is to secretly whack people they want gone? Seems like kind of a limited vision for something that has relatively endless possibilities.

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I took it as the Rainmaker controlled the time travel equipment and he just wanted to use it to take revenge on his enemies and the Loopers themselves.

He was motivated solely by revenge and not looking to corner the stock market or anything.

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I was kind of not paying that much attention the first time I saw this. So, let me get this straight. Time travel is invented in the future. It's only practiced by the mob, and the best use of it that these guys can think of is to secretly whack people they want gone? Seems like kind of a limited vision for something that has relatively endless possibilities.

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Well, it is meant to be ironic. It's also mentioned that time travel is immediately outlawed because it is generally a bad idea. This leaves only the criminal element to do it, and they only use it for their own limited purposes. Also, if you look around, society ain't doing so hot.

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How is the guy who gets his limbs and nose cut off expected to still make it to that point in time and place if he's being mutilated in the past/present, especially since there's probably no way he's getting out of that warehouse after that night.

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Exactly. The wonderful thing about that scene is the implications of it. They mutilate the poor bastard and then spend the next 30-40 years keeping him alive in that state. It is one of the more horrifying scenes in recent memory.

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Also, how is it that two different loopers use the same message-to-self tactic with the arrow on the wrist. JGL isn't aware that the other looper ever did that. Is this the textbook looper message to self procedure or something?

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Only one looper wrote to himself. The other one is written by the mobsters who are mutilating the body. I doubt there's a textbook, it's just intuitively obvious. anything you do in the past will have an effect in the future. How else do you leave a message for your future self? A tattoo would also work, but he didn't have that sort of time.

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And of course, the paradoxes. If JGL killed himself before he met the Asian woman, he never would have wanted to go back and escape death in order to save the Asian woman. JGL shoots himself at the end and all that happens is that Bruce disappears? Actually, most of what is in the movie would never have happened. Also, Jeff Daniels shows remarkable loyalty to the mob by not becoming king of the he world, or at least going all Biff Tannen and winning every sports bet he places.

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the movie touches on these paradoxes. That's where the term looper comes from. The whole philosophical bent of the movie is that the future is NOT set in stone, so the thematic choice is for JGL to kill himself and close the loop at a different place. This leads not to loop, but more of a spiral, where the future possibilities are unlimited.

And I think it's established that Daniels has set himself up as the king of the world.

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Sorry, but it's really kind of a stupid story.

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i thought it was brilliant. And I'm pleased how the movie stepped away from the current trend in sci fi to over-explain stuff that doesn't need to be explained. The movie sets up the rules and then simply abides by them. there's no 10 minute scene explaining the mechanics of time travel while the movie grinds to a screeching halt. It throws you into the world and expects you to keep up.