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re: Val Kilmer opens up about his experiences on the set of Tombstone (1993)

Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:18 am to
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Kurt Russell


We forget that Russell has been in the business almost 60 years. And, some of you youngsters only know him as "the cool guy" in Carpenter films such as Escape from New York, The Thing, etc., and forward.

Kurt was Disney's big adolescent star of their live action 60s and 70s stuff, and before that was in children's television. His father was Bing Russell (Deputy Foster on Bonanza). Russell played AA ball and might have made a career of it before injuring his shoulder.

And, although he has no formal directing credits, he has almost 100 acting credits on IMDB. I suspect if you had to press an actor into directing, you could do worse than Kurt Russell.

This reminds me of the story of the first Iron Man film. They started filming before the script was completed. So, Downey and Bridges ended up writing (uncredited) much of their own dialogue. The Dude describes it as "a 200 million dollar student film."



Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:30 am to
"Kurt Russell" was one of the names on the short list of projects found on Walt Disney's desk when he died. There's an old rumor that Walt's last words were "Kurt Russell", but that's been debunked. But Walt was big on Russell, and the Disney company kept him working through the 70's.

Walt used to grab young Kurt off of movie sets and bring him in to get a young person's opinion of films that were being edited.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:32 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:36 am to
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Kurt Russell pretty much stepped in and directed the film himself.



Dude needs to direct some films ASAP! We need more greatness
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:59 am to
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I had no idea that the film was plagued with production problems. The film's first director, Kevin Jarre, was fired because he was inexperienced and fell behind schedule. The second director they hired, a guy by the name of George P. Cosmatos, was also inexperienced and knew little about what he was doing.

So what happened? Kurt Russell pretty much stepped in and directed the film himself. Val Kilmer wrote that Russell would draw up shot lists for the director, and that he and Kilmer would sit in Russell's room tweaking and re-writing the script on a nightly basis.



This is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, examples of laying down the tracks a few feet in front of a locomotive going full speed. That they pulled it off is impressive. That they pulled it off and got a very good movie out of it is amazing.

Kurt Russel is the last of the great old school movie stars. We won't see his like again in Hollywood.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:38 pm to
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So Kurt Russell was actually Huckleberry?


Tombstone is one of my favorite movies and I have even been to Tombstone and the O.K. Corral.

I saw some material on youtube that explained these Victorian slang terms.

The Daisy evoked perfection. When Doc Holiday said, “You’re a daisy if you do,” and “You’re no daisy at all,” he was saying 1. that if the Clanton guy shot him that would be perfection. And 2. When he shot Johnny Ringo, Ringo was obviously not very perfect being shot through the head.

The Huckleberry evoked a wild streak or a wild person. That is what it meant when Doc said, “I’m your huckleberry.” He was willing to fight.



Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Kurt Russel is the last of the great old school movie stars. We won't see his like again in Hollywood.


Yup.





Pretty close.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:46 pm to


How about DeForest Kelly as Morgan Earp?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:48 pm to
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This is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, examples of laying down the tracks a few feet in front of a locomotive going full speed. That they pulled it off is impressive.


Cleopatra was another movie that was being written while it was being shot.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:50 pm to
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DeForest Kelly


Goddamnit Wyatt, I'm a doctor, not a gunslinger.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:03 pm to
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How about DeForest Kelly as Morgan Earp?


Recall the intrepid crew of the NCC-1701 (No bloody A, B, C or D) faced off with manifestations of the Earps (cast in the role of the bad guys, BTW) in the classic third season episode, Spectre of the Gun?



(Yes, that is Morgan Earp in the actual gunfighter garb.)
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:03 pm to
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How about DeForest Kelly as Morgan Earp?




And also fought AGAINST the Earps on the other side of the OK Corral in Spectre of the Gun.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:05 pm to
Actually, De Kelley was playing Dr. McCoy, who for purposes of the episode was Tom McLowery.

(But that would be quibbling, would it not?)
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:38 pm to
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Recall the intrepid crew of the NCC-1701 (No bloody A, B, C or D) faced off with manifestations of the Earps (cast in the role of the bad guys, BTW) in the classic third season episode, Spectre of the Gun?


OMG. I forgot all about that. Dreadful episode.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:41 pm to
Kurt Russell Kept Accidentally Calling Star-Lord "Star Wars" While Filming 'Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2'

They should've let him go with that. It would've been better than a lot of the jokes in the movie. It's not like they're not both owned by Disney.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:54 pm to
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We forget that Russell has been in the business almost 60 years. And, some of you youngsters only know him as "the cool guy" in Carpenter films such as Escape from New York, The Thing, etc., and forward.


Having grown up w/the Disney channel I will always know him as the strongest man in the world.


Posted by FreddieMac
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:58 pm to
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“I’m your huckleberry.”


I always that was slang for "I am your man"

Ringo: "Well I did not think you had it in you"
Holliday: "I am your huckleberry" ( I am your man)

seems the reference is important because in the second interaction between the two is where Ringo wanted to play for blood and Holliday said, "I am your huckleberry" the first time.

Ringo: " Don't you people have guts to play for blood?"
Holiday, "I am your huckleberry, that's just my game"

LINK
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 2:59 pm
Posted by coolpapaboze
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 3:54 pm to
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How about DeForest Kelly as Morgan Earp?

He's dead Wyatt......
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:54 pm to
If anyone hasnt seen the Battered Bastards of Baseball on netflix, you should watch it tonight. Its no coincidence that Kurt Russell turned into the extraordinary man he is.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:10 pm to
In a true moment of "art imitates life", the real Wyatt Earp spent his later years as a consultant for Hollywood on western films. They sought his opinion on authenticity of gunfights, horse riding, cowboy mannerisms, etc.

Kurt should make another movie starring as Wyatt in that capacity.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:35 pm to
Say when.
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