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re: True Detective Season One E3: "Locked Room"

Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Tigerfan56
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:38 pm to
Can someone give me some important things I was supposed to catch in the first two episodes? The show intrigues me and I watched the first two, but was doing a bunch of other things and not at full attention. Maybe some cliffs?
Paid attention to the titties though
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:45 pm to
It's early but this seems like a you better not drink or multi-task while watching show. I usually watch each episode twice.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:58 pm to
Here is a list of interesting clues from IMDB.com's TD forum: [Contains Spoilers from E1 & E2]: LINK








quote:

This is just to note my thoughts so far about how the show is going to pan out, using the clues that we have been given so far, and to dispute some of the other theories floating around this forum. Feel free to correct me if I've missed something.

Rust Cohle's Life Prior to Murder Investigation
* Rust lost his daughter (Sophia), who was killed in the road outside his house
* He was transferred from Robbery to Narco, and started working 24/7
* His wife, Clare, left him
* He "emptied his gun" into a drug abuser, who was injecting his infant daughter with Meth, saying he was "trying to purify her"
* State Attorney got the charges against Rust dropped, but forced him to work undercover as a junkie, for any agency that needed a Narco. There was no end date for this post
* After four years (in Feb 1993), Rust killed 3 cartel men but was hit by 3 bullets
* Rust institutionalised at Northshore Psychiatric Hospital, Texas
* After this, Rust refused psychiatric pension and instead requested transfer to Homicide, which is how he ended up in Louisiana's Criminal Investigation Division

Murder Investigation (1995)
* Marty and Rust were assigned the murder case of Dora Lange in the first 3 months of working together
* The symbol of a spiral on Dora's back represents either the cycle of life-death-rebirth, the seasons or the passing of time in Pagan culture. In Chinese art, it represents the Sun
* They suspected that the disappearance of a girl, Marie Fontenot, a few years before was connected. Although the police report stated that she left with her father, Len Shroges, her Aunt (also named Marie) doubted this as the story came from Marie's mother, Debbie. Debbie remarried and moved to Vegas.
* Neither Marty or Rust are the killer
* Marty's father-in-law is not the killer
* Marty's girls were NOT re-enacting a rape scene with their dolls (for instance, none of the male dolls were naked, despite what others in this forum have said). They were talking about children who had lost their parents in a car accident. It has not been revealed what this refers to
* Due to Rust's lack of sleep, psychiatric problems and drugs provided by his informant/prostitute, he would frequently experience hallucinations. These stopped a few years after the investigation, once he was "clean"
* There was pressure on Marty and Rust's boss to make progress in the case. This may have lead to a hasty conviction
* Lisa, Marty's mistress, worked in some capacity at the court house, and had access to his department (she brings him legal papers in episode 1)
* Marty's wife, Maggie, introduced Rust to a woman called Lori who he nearly married
* the sheriff local, Sheriff Belson, was complicit in the trailer-brothel's activities, and possibly had contact with Dora Lange. Thus, he may become a suspect
* Dora Lange arrived at the brothel because of a bad relationship or abuse from her Uncle. Possibly coincidentally, Danny Fontenot, the disabled man (stroke victim), was Marie Fontenot's Uncle, and a Bird Trap/Devil Net was found on his property. Thus, he may become a suspect
* Dora Lange spent a lot of time at a church before her death. Marty and Rust interviewed a Minister, played by Clarke Peters, in the first episode. I'd be VERY surprised if an actor of Peters' calibre is not significant to the story. Thus, he may become a suspect
* in the burnt out church at the end of ep2, there is an owl in the rafters for the whole scene [thanks llienomit for pointing this nice detail out!]
* Marty and Rust fell out around 2002 and have not spoken since

Interviews (2012)
* Marty and Rust are being interviewed because their investigation lead to someone being convicted of the murder, but a murder with the same MO has happened recently (while the man is still in prison)
* Rust asks the detectives conducting the interviews whether they want to hear about "the hero shot - the place where we carried the kids out". The investigation may culminate to this event, where children were in danger from the killer
* The detectives are gathering evidence to discover the real (or copy-cat) killer
* The detectives MAY be gathering evidence in order to hold either Marty or Rust accountable for the wrongful conviction, for legal or political (media) reasons. It currently appears that Rust is most likely to take the fall if this is the case
* The detectives MAY suspect Rust of the recent murder, because some of the MO was not public knowledge, and because he has been "off the grid for 8 years"

Personal Thoughts / Summary
My main suspects for the killing are, first, the Minister (Clarke Peters), or, second, the disabled Uncle
They seem to be trying to pin the wrongful conviction on Rust. I am hoping that the interviews prove that Rust has superior insight into the case, and both Marty and Rust are re-assigned to the present-day case.


Of course, all this could be totally wrong! Any opinions or ideas are welcome. :)


Edits:

Today I found some very insightful articles in the "TV Recap" section of the Wall Street Journal blog at https://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/tag/true-detective/, by @MarshallCrook. The following points are of particular interest:

* As the blogger and people in this forum point out - the writer may have no interest in who-done-it stories, so the supposed killer could easily be someone we do not meet until the final episodes
* Rust's "this town is like someone's memory of a town, and the memory's fading" observation is profound because all the flashbacks are Marty or Rust's recollections (we don't necessarily know which, at any given point) in the 2012 interviews. Thus, these accounts may well contain errors
* "'The King in Yellow' is a horror anthology written by Robert W. Chambers and published in 1895. The supernatural stories, and the characters within, are linked by a mysterious play, 'The King in Yellow'. Chambers only hints at the content of the play but when a character reads it he or she is driven insane with visions of a King in Yellow"





This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 3:03 pm
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

glassman, you really need to stop focusing on the nudity in the show and pay more attention to the show's other artistic merits.


I KNOW !!!
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

* Dora Lange arrived at the brothel because of a bad relationship or abuse from her Uncle. Possibly coincidentally, Danny Fontenot, the disabled man (stroke victim), was Marie Fontenot's Uncle, and a Bird Trap/Devil Net was found on his property. Thus, he may become a suspect


He also played for LSU didn't he?
Posted by SW2SCLA
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:23 pm to
Just finished the first 2 episodes. I'm hooked
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

He also played for LSU didn't he?


SO UNREALISTIC!!

PARTIAL SCHOLARSHIP!!11
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:58 pm to
God please let there be tits
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

I hope they don't have any gratuitous nude scenes.


Down vote.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:03 pm to
In
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

God please let there be tits


How big were those tits in ep 2? Has to be some sort of natural record on a chick like that
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:29 pm to
Gifs of tonights episode have already been uploaded. Goodness we are in for treat.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Goodness we are in for treat.


I think we are. Can't wait.
Posted by SW2SCLA
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Gifs of tonights episode have already been uploaded. Goodness we are in for treat.



Where?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:45 pm to
can I watch this online anywhere other than hbogo?
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:49 pm to
You want my hbogo login?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:51 pm to
frick yea if you're offering.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Where?

Here you go LINK

Scroll down and you'll see the 8 imagines.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:54 pm
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

TH03


Have you watched the first 2 episodes?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:55 pm to
not the second one. I'm about to watch it
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