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The Wire questions

Posted on 8/14/09 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Joe
North Jersey
Member since Jan 2005
6326 posts
Posted on 8/14/09 at 6:08 pm
So I just finished Season 1 and Season 2 is downl....I mean, being shipped to me as we speak.

Questions:

1. Was Season 1 the best season? Is it all downhill from here?

2. Are the other seasons about McNulty and the same characters or is each season about different people?

3. Should I watch them all in order, or are certain seasons better than others and some are just not worth watching? Do they all have to do with each other or is each season seperate from each other?

Thanks!

Posted by Afreaux
Conway Bayou
Member since Aug 2007
47019 posts
Posted on 8/14/09 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

1. Was Season 1 the best season? Is it all downhill from here?


Season two isn't as exciting, but every season after that has its moments. The series also goes out with a bang.

quote:

2. Are the other seasons about McNulty and the same characters or is each season about different people?


The emphasis isn't always on the bigger characters from the first season.

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3. Should I watch them all in order


The seasons are chronological and fit into one another. The later seasons wouldn't make sense unless you watched it in order.

I bought the entire series on DVD, and spent a good week locked inside watching the entire thing.
Posted by Someone
West Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1814 posts
Posted on 8/14/09 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

1. Was Season 1 the best season? Is it all downhill from here?


No, Season 1 is not the best. Although, in my opinion, Season 2 is the weakest. Most people seem to regard Season 4 as the best (Season 3 is also outstanding).

quote:

2. Are the other seasons about McNulty and the same characters or is each season about different people?


McNulty takes a back seat in Season 4, but each season introduces new characters (the dockworkers in Season 2, Bunny Colvin in Season 3, the kids in season 4, and the newspaper writers in season 5) who each take up a good chunk of the story.

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3. Should I watch them all in order, or are certain seasons better than others and some are just not worth watching? Do they all have to do with each other or is each season seperate from each other?


Watch them in order. Each season is separate, but they do revisit storylines from previous seasons (especially in season 5). Every episode is worth watching. Even the worst episode of The Wire is better than 98% of anything else on TV.
This post was edited on 8/14/09 at 6:34 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35904 posts
Posted on 8/14/09 at 7:20 pm to
Season 3 and Season 4 are some of the best television you will EVER see.
Posted by lsutigerdan
Member since Jan 2006
1942 posts
Posted on 8/14/09 at 9:09 pm to
Season 2 was the worst(relatively speaking) by far IMO. You could argue any of the other seasons to be the best.

I recall McNulty having a rather small part(less screen time) in season 2 if my memory serves me right.

Absolutely watch them in order!

Posted by Turkey Burger
BRLA
Member since Feb 2009
3060 posts
Posted on 8/14/09 at 9:46 pm to
I actually think Season Two is one of the best seasons. But S3 has some of the most jaw dropping moments of television anywhere

S3 of the Wire
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 8/14/09 at 10:09 pm to
Minor hijack....I was a Real Estate Mgr for Wal-Mart back when the series was filmed. All the sets were built inside one of our old Sam's Club buildings. Interesting watching the show after having been on site and seen how it really looks.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11351 posts
Posted on 8/15/09 at 12:35 am to
Season 3 is probably my favorite. All seasons are great though and you should definitely watch them in order.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61318 posts
Posted on 8/15/09 at 1:05 am to
They're all outstanding. There was never a weak episode IMO, although I agree with those who say that Season 2 was the weakest. It was still great TV, though. Just not as good as the other 4 seasons.

Watch the seasons in order. Each season assumes a knowledge of what went on before.


Hamsterdam!!!
Posted by TiGeRTeRRoR
Member since Nov 2003
19883 posts
Posted on 8/15/09 at 1:49 am to
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Hamsterdam!!!
The way that idea was presented, it made it sound like it could definitely work.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 8/15/09 at 3:54 am to
Season 3 is a do not miss. Stringer Bell is one of the best played characters ever, in any genre. It's hard to believe he's actually an Englishman in real life.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31159 posts
Posted on 8/15/09 at 4:01 am to
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It's hard to believe he's actually an Englishman in real life.


I realized this after season 3 and couldn't believe it.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 8/15/09 at 4:11 am to
Yeah, me too. I think what I love best about the Wire is the use of mostly unknown actors. "Barney" from Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal was one of the few I recall. Daniels, Bodie, Norman, and a couple of others played roles on Oz.

The number of characters and the way they are ALL tied in together, along with the keen use of different themes for each season are what make this, easily, the most innovative and creative televsion show of its kind. It's much more than a simple cop show. It puts network shows like CSI and old episodes of NYPD Blue in the "unwatchable" category.
This post was edited on 8/15/09 at 4:12 am
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31159 posts
Posted on 8/15/09 at 4:25 am to
The believability of it all is also what struck me. Well organized crime looking to diversify, the suffering of the dock workers, the decline of the print media, the joke of a political system and good police work to go with it all. None of this could last half a season on Network TV because the storylines would just take long to develop. They built the series around real content. Just brilliant.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 8/15/09 at 5:03 am to
Yeah, I thought the decline of the newspaper in Season 5 was so well played and accurately portrayed. It was a bit boring at first, but it quickly got very interesting. The fact that it was the Baltimore Sun made for a very unique twist that only Simon and his writers could pull off.

That's the beauty of the show. It's not set in NYC, nor L.A. There were roughly 80 or so characters that made regular appearances. It's got to be difficult to throw that many actors into a season, yet still allow character development to ensure that the audience has the ability to recognize such.

I loved...I mean LOVED The Sopranos. The Wire, however, absolutely crushes the hell out of David Chase's masterful six-season series. The Sopranos often got too far fetched and overly-fictional and also tried to depict a phenomena that is all but wiped out in the northeast. By Season 6, as good as some of the writing was, the Sopranos reached waaaay too far and tried too hard to make sure each character's last appearance on the show contained some sort of over the top storyline (Chris's death, AJ's suicide attempt, Phil being turned on by his own crew with a drop of a hat and getting shot down in Oyster Bay, Bobby's metaphoric "Blue Comet" murder, etc). Let's not forget the last episode was quite a clusterfrick...but all of the "you just don't get it" types will say that it was a "genius ending" because it leaves everything open to interpretation.

The Wire, meanwhile, tried not to bring closure to every single character. Hell, some were completely ignored. The final episode's main resolution scene was McNulty and Lester being retired (after basically all but quietly fired) in Irish pub mock wake tradition. It was fitting being that the two of them were arguably the show's co-main characters (along with Daniels). There were never many moments in the show where things seemed just too over the top or pushed to get shock value. The show was consistent and the plots were often complicated, but sensible. All I can say is that there likely will never be another show like it and HBO lost its two best shows within a year. Now, Entourage and Big Love are trying to pick up the slack and seem to be doing it...but the audience that watches and loves Entourage, primarily, is not the same one that watched the Wire, either.
This post was edited on 8/15/09 at 5:07 am
Posted by DeeHorton
Member since Jan 2009
2105 posts
Posted on 8/15/09 at 7:58 am to
Best show ever, keep watching
Posted by SanFranTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2003
4906 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:48 am to
I'm making my husband watch the series from Season 1, and enjoy rewatching every bit of every episode of every season.

LOVE. THAT. SHOW.

Breaking Bad is sorta my new favorite. Not nearly as complex and subtle, but pretty damn good.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 2:58 am to
The Wire crushes Breaking Bad. But, Breaking Bad would be damn near it of it was on HBOand not A&E.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5200 posts
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:31 am to
can't believe Stringer Bell is really British. That guy is on The Office some isn't he?
Posted by Camron
Mi-Yayo
Member since Jun 2009
1907 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 11:15 am to
shameless. bump. just rented the first disc of season 1 and am hooked. cant wait for the other discs to come this week. if any of u waited long and were on the fence about getting this series do it. i like it better than sopranos so far.
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