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The Pacific - series
Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:54 am
Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:54 am
Airing on HBO right now. All episodes back to back.
I'm taping them because I have never seen it. Hope I have enough room on the dvr.
I'm taping them because I have never seen it. Hope I have enough room on the dvr.
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:57 am to Sid in Lakeshore
Still haven't watched it. I knew I would compare it to much to BOB so I didn't watch it when it came out.
Years later and I still think I won't judge it fairly. Might just have to watch BOB again.
Years later and I still think I won't judge it fairly. Might just have to watch BOB again.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 10:21 am to TigerMyth36
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Still haven't watched it. I knew I would compare it to much to BOB so I didn't watch it when it came out.
This makes ZERO sense. The Pacific is good, real good, is it BoB good? The type of stories told are very different focusing on multiple unrelated characters make it way more disjointed then telling the story of one Company. The stories though are real, compelling and intense. It really needs to be watched and appreciated for what it is.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 10:28 am to Sid in Lakeshore
I thin you should combine both the Pacific and Band of Brothers.
like Ep.1 of BOB then Ep.1 of Pacific to where the last episode should be the pacific in this.
It'll feel like you're watching both sides of the globe and the formats are way different so i guess I'll be doing that on Memorial Day
like Ep.1 of BOB then Ep.1 of Pacific to where the last episode should be the pacific in this.
It'll feel like you're watching both sides of the globe and the formats are way different so i guess I'll be doing that on Memorial Day
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:16 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Me and the Mrs are watching. Very good series. The greatest generation.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:20 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Why do you have to tape the episodes? Can you not watch on demand?
Posted on 5/29/16 at 12:39 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
I liked The Pacific but I feel like the narrative was hurt by telling three different stories in a 10-episode miniseries.
They should have focused on Eugene Sledge and possibly done away with Basilone and Lecki completely.
I give the miniseries a solid 7.5/10.
They should have focused on Eugene Sledge and possibly done away with Basilone and Lecki completely.
I give the miniseries a solid 7.5/10.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 1:16 pm to RollTide1987
I haven't seen The Pacific, but I don't think you can "do away with" John Basilone!
I few years ago, driving from NY to DC for Memorial Day weekend, we stopped at a I-95 rest area in NJ. Walking in, I spotted a bronze plaque...
we were at the John Basilone Memorial Rest Area!
One of my poor nephews almost pissed his pants before I finished my lecture about the USMC, the Pacific island hopping campaign and John Basilone. True American hero! (Manila John, not my nephew.)
I few years ago, driving from NY to DC for Memorial Day weekend, we stopped at a I-95 rest area in NJ. Walking in, I spotted a bronze plaque...
we were at the John Basilone Memorial Rest Area!
One of my poor nephews almost pissed his pants before I finished my lecture about the USMC, the Pacific island hopping campaign and John Basilone. True American hero! (Manila John, not my nephew.)
Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:11 pm to White Roach
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I haven't seen The Pacific, but I don't think you can "do away with" John Basilone!
I'm simply saying the miniseries tried to do too much and that was its primary weakness. They tried to cover our entire involvement in the Pacific instead of zeroing in on an individual unit or person. Eugene Sledge's story was much more interesting than Baislone's and Lecki's because it is a loss-of-innocence tale. A young boy from Mobile, Alabama does everything he can to overcome his heart condition and enlist so he can go off and fight. When he finally gets his chance he comes close to losing his humanity in the process.
Yeah...he's only in two battles but they are two of the bloodiest battles in American military history (Peleliu and Okinawa).
Posted on 5/29/16 at 2:16 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
The Pacific's way darker than BoB. Tougher to watch. Definitely quality tv.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 4:28 pm to DanglingFury
BOB was the first. It had a way of welcoming you into the characters, and it hurt to see them hurt.
The Pacific, well, it just hurts. I can't tell you why, but it just beats you over the head with a pall of despair. I've read Sledge's book, and it's a tough read, just like this is a tough watch.
The Pacific, well, it just hurts. I can't tell you why, but it just beats you over the head with a pall of despair. I've read Sledge's book, and it's a tough read, just like this is a tough watch.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 4:32 pm to DanglingFury
The idea of following one person in the US Marines would not work due to the higher causality rate per day in combat in the Pacific.
Band of Brothers only works due to Winters being promoted to Battalion commander, as the company by early 1945 was not the same due to causalities, the show centers on Winter the rest of the war.
And BTW E company 101st Airborne is one of the few you could make a show of, as almost all the other Airborne companies had higher casualty rates, mainly in the 82nd.
The Pacific would have worked better had they followed Sgt. Michael Strank and then added the men that made up Easy company 28th Marines as they came into the story, and ended with Bradley going home.
USS Talladega would have been one show to the landing on IWO Jima.
Band of Brothers only works due to Winters being promoted to Battalion commander, as the company by early 1945 was not the same due to causalities, the show centers on Winter the rest of the war.
And BTW E company 101st Airborne is one of the few you could make a show of, as almost all the other Airborne companies had higher casualty rates, mainly in the 82nd.
The Pacific would have worked better had they followed Sgt. Michael Strank and then added the men that made up Easy company 28th Marines as they came into the story, and ended with Bradley going home.
USS Talladega would have been one show to the landing on IWO Jima.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 4:41 pm to tigger1
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The idea of following one person in the US Marines would not work due to the higher causality rate per day in combat in the Pacific.
That's why it would work. If you follow Eugene Sledge for 10 episodes, you get to know the people he knows and react just as emotionally when they are wounded or killed. You also get to see his character progress more vividly from the bright-eyed, idealistic boy he was in episode one, to the broken shell of a human being he had become by the end of the miniseries.
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Band of Brothers only works due to Winters being promoted to Battalion commander, as the company by early 1945 was not the same due to causalities, the show centers on Winter the rest of the war.
Not true at all. Winters is promoted to command the battalion in episode five.
Doc Roe is the focal point of episode six, 1st Sgt. Lipton is the focal point of episode seven, Pvt. Webster is the focal point of episode eight, Capt. Nixon is the focal point of episode nine, and Maj. Winters is the focal point of the tenth and final episode.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 4:44 pm to RollTide1987
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Eugene Sledge's story was much more interesting than Baislone's and Lecki's
Lecki's book is the better of the 2. He's a good writer. Still, I enjoyed the Sledgehammer's book as well.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 5:27 pm to RollTide1987
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They should have focused on Eugene Sledge and possibly done away with Basilone and Lecki completely.
Disagree.
I don't think people understand just how shitty the early days of the war were. The Basilone and Leckie stories really help illustrate this.
Plus, Basilone was a straight up badass.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 5:42 pm to GetCocky11
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I don't think people understand just how shitty the early days of the war were.
Peleliu and Okinawa are about as shitty as it gets in the Pacific.
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Plus, Basilone was a straight up badass.
Agreed, but his was the weaker story in the miniseries IMO.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 6:14 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
The scene in the hut with the Japanese woman is such a hard thing to watch. I knew it was coming up and it still messed with me.
While the series may have fell short in other places, portraying the horror of the Island-Hopping campaign wasn't one of them.
While the series may have fell short in other places, portraying the horror of the Island-Hopping campaign wasn't one of them.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 7:59 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
True story: I got it off someone's hardrive while in AFG a while back and was watching one episode and was thinking "damn, the sound effects are awesome." Realized after a few seconds that the mortar hut was firing off a couple rounds not far from my tent.
Posted on 5/29/16 at 8:14 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
It's a solid series but my "knock" against it is that every fight scene looks like it's on the same set. But, my love for the series is how they nailed the coming home of the soldiers. You get to see all angles of different personalities after a war. Solid film but I just prefer Band of Brothers.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:03 am to 79
OB has less taken out of the story than the Pacific. Snafu and others in the 1st Marines told me much about Lecki and there is much left out of the show.
The home coming never happened the way it was shown in the show, as Snafu came back to Louisiana months before Eugene and Eugene was still in the Marines, and even serviced in China after the war.
The home coming never happened the way it was shown in the show, as Snafu came back to Louisiana months before Eugene and Eugene was still in the Marines, and even serviced in China after the war.
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