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re: The Night Of - New HBO Limited Series
Posted on 8/29/16 at 8:29 am to lsugrad35
Posted on 8/29/16 at 8:29 am to lsugrad35
Some more awful writing when it comes to the trial scenes especially last night:
- why the frick would the DA not cross examine any of the defense witnesses who they were trying to portray as potential suspects? Stones said it was to show that she wasn't worried about them. You know a better way of doing that - ask them where they were and rule them out
- the hearse driver being on the stand is ridiculous. Yes we as an audience saw his interaction with them at the station and his creepy encounter with Shandra, but as far as presenting reasonable doubt with him it offers nothing at all to a jury. Again DA, ask him where he went after he left the gas station
- same again can be said for Duane Reed and the stepdad. The defense will present the reasonable doubt and it's up to the DA to extinguish it. Just terrible
- how did Freddie run out of drugs all of the sudden to where Shandra now had to smuggle them in? I legit lol'd at this scene too.
- Speaking of Shandra, what was the point of this character?
- the DA's cross of Nas was pretty good until she was saying "you could have saved her". Um, no, she was dead. Stabbed 22 times.
- NECK TAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- why the frick would the DA not cross examine any of the defense witnesses who they were trying to portray as potential suspects? Stones said it was to show that she wasn't worried about them. You know a better way of doing that - ask them where they were and rule them out
- the hearse driver being on the stand is ridiculous. Yes we as an audience saw his interaction with them at the station and his creepy encounter with Shandra, but as far as presenting reasonable doubt with him it offers nothing at all to a jury. Again DA, ask him where he went after he left the gas station
- same again can be said for Duane Reed and the stepdad. The defense will present the reasonable doubt and it's up to the DA to extinguish it. Just terrible
- how did Freddie run out of drugs all of the sudden to where Shandra now had to smuggle them in? I legit lol'd at this scene too.
- Speaking of Shandra, what was the point of this character?
- the DA's cross of Nas was pretty good until she was saying "you could have saved her". Um, no, she was dead. Stabbed 22 times.
- NECK TAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on 8/29/16 at 8:40 am to etm512
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- how did Freddie run out of drugs all of the sudden to where Shandra now had to smuggle them in? I legit lol'd at this scene too.
The dude whose mom was sneaking them in via her snatch was killed, so she had no reason to go to the prison any more. Still an awful scene.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 8:46 am to THRILLHO
Ah ok forgot that was the same guy. Would a defense attorney be patted down as rigorously as a prison visitor to where she would have to do that? I wouldn't think so. Tape it do your inner thigh or something if you are even going to do that crazy shite
Posted on 8/29/16 at 8:54 am to tLSU
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No matter what verdict they render, it has to be unanimous in either direction (or, in states like Louisiana, you need 10/12 in either direction). The notion that if one person votes for acquittal, the defendant is free to go, is wrong. It's hung and the state simply picks a new trial date.
Wow, so why is the "it only takes one to acquit" such a common phrase? I mean, that's a pretty common phrase. Is it because the states will rarely retry so it's essentially the same thing?
You're telling me every single person in the OJ case thought he was not guilty? I always assumed it was one or two just refusing to budge. This is surprisingly shocking to me.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:02 am to FootballNostradamus
Me too. Thought my whole life it only took one. Even Stone told him when he met him "we don't have to convince everyone, we just need to convince one".
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:10 am to dallastiger55
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Me too. Thought my whole life it only took one. Even Stone told him when he met him "we don't have to convince everyone, we just need to convince one".
Right?!?
Wtf is going on
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Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:12 am to abellsujr
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A 6 to 6 jury with that much evidence and the fact that he was demolished on the stand? No fricking way.
Do you OJ Simpson bro? A jury should never surprise anyone.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:17 am to etm512
quote:Well it's pretty clear that Freddie isn't as tough on the outside as he was portrayed in the beginning. His only connection to drugs was that kid and his mother who killed himself.
- how did Freddie run out of drugs all of the sudden to where Shandra now had to smuggle them in? I legit lol'd at this scene too.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:17 am to jg8623
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Box- first episode he is all about investigating this murder. Then decides "frick it, I guess he's guilty". Retires, and THEN decides to start investigating at the very end of the trial
this was kind of the point. I wasn't a huge fan of the show, but it was trying to show you how things can go in the judicial system. I don't appreciate being fooled into thinking this show was a full blown "whodunnit" either, but most of your examples were intentional.
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Nas- Young kid starts using drugs in prison? Helping out the tough guy for protection?Totally reasonable, sure it happens a lot. Starts getting neck tats, knuckle tats that say sin? While in the middle of a trial? GTFO
I agree to an extent, but I don't think it's unreasonable. Rikers is a tough place and Naz was likely struggling with wondering if he killed her or not, and therefore began to mold. I actually have a cousin who went to jail in Memphis and while only in there a few months, he came out with tons of tats and whatnot. Take into account Naz is a Muslim and he had to go to the extreme to survive.
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Shandra- makes out with a dude on trial for murder in a prison cell while in the middle of her first big time case? Goes out and buys pills for him, then brings them in her vag into the prison cell?
Agreed. I hated the writing when it came to this. Just not something that would happen IRL, ever. Bad writing.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:18 am to JS87
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After an outstanding pilot, the episodes afterwards clearly rode the coattail of it.
The show was not shot wee-to-week
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:20 am to lsugrad35
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I personally thought the DVD was going to be Chandra giving Naz drugs. Freddy was going to see it as Naz going behind his back and Naz was about to get shanked. I kept thinking shite was about to go down as Naz was walking out of the prison.
I thought the exact same thing. My wife kept saying "OMG he's going to get killed on his way out!"
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:27 am to cas4t
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this was kind of the point. I wasn't a huge fan of the show, but it was trying to show you how things can go in the judicial system. I don't appreciate being fooled into thinking this show was a full blown "whodunnit" either, but most of your examples were intentional.
The show struggled deciding if it was a whodunnit mystery or a look on the judicial system and it's flaws. It could have been both if the writing was good but as most here have pointed out, the writing (specifically related to the investigation/trial) struggled which was the entire focus of the show
I am surprised most critics have received it so well. ETA yes the acting/production/cinematography was great but when the crux of the show is the investigation and the big reveal is her phone/bank records pointing to the financial advisor, it is hard to take it serious.
This post was edited on 8/29/16 at 9:32 am
Posted on 8/29/16 at 9:49 am to lsuhunt555
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I personally thought the DVD was going to be Chandra giving Naz drugs. Freddy was going to see it as Naz going behind his back and Naz was about to get shanked. I kept thinking shite was about to go down as Naz was walking out of the prison.
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I thought the exact same thing. My wife kept saying "OMG he's going to get killed on his way out!"
I was 1000% right there with yal, thought for sure he was gonna get shanked the last time they smoked together in the cell.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:14 am to hiltacular
My biggest frustrations:
-Chick lawyer kissing Naz and smuggling drugs
-Stepdad being introduced early, and then no mention of him for a while. Instead we get lots of feet and lots of cat.
-The biggest, for me, would be if there were pictures of Angela and the Financial Adviser in her apartment, then how the frick was he never investigated further? Were those pics in her apartment?
-Chick lawyer kissing Naz and smuggling drugs
-Stepdad being introduced early, and then no mention of him for a while. Instead we get lots of feet and lots of cat.
-The biggest, for me, would be if there were pictures of Angela and the Financial Adviser in her apartment, then how the frick was he never investigated further? Were those pics in her apartment?
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:18 am to cas4t
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The biggest, for me, would be if there were pictures of Angela and the Financial Adviser in her apartment, then how the frick was he never investigated further? Were those pics in her apartment?
And that it was pretty clearly a crime of passion carried out by someone who knew her.
Also the fact that nobody even looked into where she was that night before she got into the cab was pretty ridiculous. That's just establishing a timeline and setting sort of stuff which obviously would have led to her encounter with the FA outside the bar
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:23 am to dallastiger55
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Me too. Thought my whole life it only took one. Even Stone told him when he met him "we don't have to convince everyone, we just need to convince one".
It only takes one juror that votes not guilty for re-trial. That doesn't mean acquittal. As shown, if the jury can not reach a unanimous verdict the prosecutor must refile the charges and present their case to a new jury. The judge asked the prosecutor how she wanted to proceed and she stated that her office declined further prosecution - basically they dropped the charges
TV and movies show this as a victory of sorts for defendants and defense counsel because if the state does decide to proceed with a re-trial, the defense has now seen and heard the prosecution's entire case and witnesses and evidence and can come into the second trial better prepared to rebut what the prosecution offers.
If Box had not come up with the financial advisor as the more likely killer then I bet the prosecutor would have refiled charges against Naz and the whole circus would have started up all over again.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:48 am to cas4t
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this was kind of the point. I wasn't a huge fan of the show, but it was trying to show you how things can go in the judicial system. I don't appreciate being fooled into thinking this show was a full blown "whodunnit" either, but most of your examples were intentional.
By far the best aspect of the show was the attempt to portray the ambiguities and conflicts of interest/motivation that are rife in the judicial system. This includes portrayal of jail for people who are presumed innocent. The DA choosing outright to garner a conviction for Naz after finding out he was very likely innocent was perhaps a bit ham-handed so that everyone would understand, but no doubt, subtle versions of that go on all the time.
The Indian atty doing shite on camera (making out, drugs, etc.) just was really really terrible writing.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 10:52 am to Big Scrub TX
I was fully expecting Naz to get arrested after he got released and smoked crack.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:14 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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I was fully expecting Naz to get arrested after he got released and smoked crack.
I imagine the take away is supposed to be that that might happen still.
I still kind of think the worst bit of writing was the absolute free run of the facility that Omar had. I get that there are dirty hacks and all sorts of bad shite that goes on, but that really seemed over the top.
Posted on 8/29/16 at 12:39 pm to JBeam
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kind of chilling to see a kid like Naz doing meth in the final scene.
That wasn't meth
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