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re: The Night Of - New HBO Limited Series

Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:38 am to
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:38 am to
Can someone tell me why the step dad got another acting job? I hated him in House of Cards, now this?
Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
6344 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:43 am to
He's been good in everything I've seen him in.

HoC
Mud
Boardwalk

Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4195 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:09 am to
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He's been good in everything I've seen him in.



Yeah I think his acting is fine, I just normally hate his characters.

Also. Can't get past how cripplingly awful it would feel to wake up in the same house as a dead body, and not have any recollection of how the night ended.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:41 am to
Well that was the connection that I made

Maybe it's more about his mom starting to think Nas isn't as innocent as she thinks if they are a really strict religious family.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:09 am to
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Maybe it's more about his mom starting to think Nas isn't as innocent as she thinks if they are a really strict religious family.

Even his porn is G rated (A twenty year old still using Maxim to get off??? C'mon man). I don't get the vibe that he interacts with your average American female that often (Remember how he was practicing his conversations before calling his friend for a ride).
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57486 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:24 am to
The killer is the silent black guy that was walking with Bodi
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:36 am to
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The killer is the silent black guy that was walking with Bodi



Could be. Or it could be a red herring, like the other handful of potential suspects they alluded to in the first 2 episodes.

Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:49 am to
Yeah the whole thing was kinda strange. I guess that is the sheltered immigrant life
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Can someone tell me why the step dad got another acting job? I hated him in House of Cards, now this?

What? That guy is solid as shite.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:16 pm to
Yeah I've never understood the hate for him on here
Posted by Tigerbait46
Member since Dec 2005
8017 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:34 pm to
One thing I like about the show is the characters are realistic. They're not oversimplified as "good guys" or "bad guys".

Yes, I think most viewers are cheering for Naz and he's probably innocent, but he kind of dug his own grave through a number of mishaps. Also, who knows what could happen when an impressionable young man on drugs for the first time is under the spell of a siren. He stabbed her once when she asked. Who's to say she didn't ask for more later when he was even more under her trance?

Stone also seems like a guy we want to root for - he's the every-man underdog - but is he just happy to have the client and paycheck? To what extent can Naz trust him with his life and his devotion to the case?

Box is complicated as well. He plays good cop when needed and is known to bend the rules. We've seen him attempt to be a manipulative "subtle beast", but the show indicates that despite the evidence, he knows something isn't right about Naz as the murderer.

In a way, I'm cheering for all of the characters (as of now) even though they're on opposing sides. It'll be interesting to see how Stone and Box continue to evolve and if we'll be forced to choose a side for Naz.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12128 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:36 pm to
I haven't read but the last couple pages but has anyone mentioned that the police broke chain of custody with the knife and clothes? So most likely that will get thrown out if it goes to court.

They really made sure that all the shots focused on the videos at each location too.

I want to say that the step dad was involved out of the gate but that seems to simple. I think the killer will be someone we haven't seen yet.
Posted by Tigerbait46
Member since Dec 2005
8017 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:41 pm to
Just read this on a fan theory site:

quote:

Naz's Mother Covered Up Important Evidence

While Detective Box and his team are searching Khan's house and seizing evidence for the case, Naz's mother is in his room searching through some of her son's things. In the following scene, she's downstairs in the living room, and the washing machine is running loudly upstairs. She tells Box that she's running a load of laundry, but the machine wasn't running only moments before. She was definitely up to something. I wonder what she found that she thought she had to cover up...
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
2690 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:44 pm to
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Stone also seems like a guy we want to root for - he's the every-man underdog - but is he just happy to have the client and paycheck? To what extent can Naz trust him with his life and his devotion to the case?


I'm very curious about his past. His ex-wife is worried if he'll be able to handle the case and the judge tells him congrats. Almost as if he had some kind of "fall from grace" or break down which has led us to now.
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
2690 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:45 pm to
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She tells Box that she's running a load of laundry, but the machine wasn't running only moments before. She was definitely up to something. I wonder what she found that she thought she had to cover up...


Interesting. It's not like Naz went back to the house so anything she is doing or destroying would likely hurt his case, right?
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12128 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:47 pm to
without going back to rematch that scene, did she walk out of his room with anything? The cops walked in on her in the room and I thought she just closed the backpack and walked out.
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
2690 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:49 pm to
And for the record....

I will not let this show consume me the way TD S1 did. I rewatched every episode multiple times and reported back in the threads provided opinions and fact checking.

I will not let it happen. I will not let it happen. I will not let it happen.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Yes, I think most viewers are cheering for Naz and he's probably innocent, but he kind of dug his own grave through a number of mishaps. Also, who knows what could happen when an impressionable young man on drugs for the first time is under the spell of a siren. He stabbed her once when she asked. Who's to say she didn't ask for more later when he was even more under her trance?

He accidentally stabbed her in the hand after two shots & a bump of coke. It's not like when they went upstairs that he had a knife on him. Again, anyone who thinks they would act rationale after finding the dead body of a girl they slept with hours ago is full of horseshite. IDK how I would react. But I certainly don't think "calm" would be my immediate reaction.

quote:

Stone also seems like a guy we want to root for - he's the every-man underdog - but is he just happy to have the client and paycheck? To what extent can Naz trust him with his life and his devotion to the case?

In E2, you notice a number of people ask him "How did you get yourself into this?/ "Family friend or just luck?". That gives me the impression that Stone is well out of his league in this situation.

Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 1:23 pm to
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In E2, you notice a number of people ask him "How did you get yourself into this?/ "Family friend or just luck?". That gives me the impression that Stone is well out of his league in this situation.


Everyone seems to know him though, so I'm wondering if he used to be a well known attorney before he had some frick up to where he can't get high profile clients anymore.

Either that or he is just a really well known ambulance chaser
Posted by Tigerbait46
Member since Dec 2005
8017 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

He accidentally stabbed her in the hand after two shots & a bump of coke. It's not like when they went upstairs that he had a knife on him. Again, anyone who thinks they would act rationale after finding the dead body of a girl they slept with hours ago is full of horseshite. IDK how I would react. But I certainly don't think "calm" would be my immediate reaction.


Right, I don't think he did anything. Just throwing out the ambiguity - we don't know what happened during his drug induced night with the crazy chick.

Having said that, I think the show is less about the viewer asking "did Naz do it?" and more about the viewer navigating through the realities and moral gray areas of the legal system and its players, particularly from a suspect's perspective.
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