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re: The infamous "Martha" scene in Batman v. Superman

Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:17 pm to
So I finally decided to watch this tonight and I'm 30 minutes into it and nothing has happened yet. No wonder it's 3 hours long.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:22 pm to
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So I finally decided to watch this tonight and I'm 30 minutes into it and nothing has happened yet. No wonder it's 3 hours long.


Wait until you see Lois find "the bullet", the Martha scene, Superman as a medium spirit whisperer, etc...
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10376 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:26 pm to
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I hate this movie. Why am I rewatching it? Every scene is fricking terrible.




Because this movie has become disaster porn for you guys. It has really fricked with your equilibrium. Although the film was by no means good, it has become enjoyable to read over and over and over again on this board how much you hate it. It simply disappointed me, not triggered me. But we've all got opinions... Roll On
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:28 pm to
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Please watch this review. You will love it. It's much like the Plinkett reviews minus the ridiculous caricature: LINK


That was fricking hilarious.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:28 pm to
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Lois find "the bullet"


Forgot about that. Luthor uses a prototype bullet to frame Superman to kill people. Not only does it not make sense that Superman would kill people by shooting them, but those bullets can also be immediately traced back to Luthor himself. Brilliant plan for the world's smartest man.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10376 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:30 pm to
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So I finally decided to watch this tonight and I'm 30 minutes into it and nothing has happened yet. No wonder it's 3 hours long.



It really tries to play itself as a gothic opera...Kinda like buying a ticket expecting to see Grease! and being presented a Wagner opera version instead. Really takes itself way too seriously. The only time it gets truly kinetic IMO is when Doomsday is created and it morphs into a monster movie.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 8:31 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:31 pm to
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 10:00 pm
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
6653 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:37 pm to
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Lex says "If you kill me, Martha dies, or you fly away, Martha dies. And Lex gives him an hour and then just leaves. And instead of going and getting her. He goes to fight Batman. This movie is so fricking stupid


To me this was worse than the Martha nonsense. Superman can't try to save his Mom or Lex will kill her. Yet, Batman can go and takes several minutes fighting a ton of guys yet they didn't execute Superman's Mom?
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29026 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:46 pm to
Trying the watch this on HBO now.

The Luthor frick makes it almost unwatchable.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:59 pm to
Like why are they honoring him? Seriously it's ridiculous bullshite.

"All hail the man who almost ended the world by his presence, lead to the deaths of millions, constantly destroyed government and personal property because he's an a-hole, held the world hostage to his every whim, and hated being a hero."

There should be celebration on the streets that he's dead, not build a god damn memorial for him. He was a top grade a-hole, and from the disaster that was Man of Steel, it should have been easy to make Luthor rightfully hate him.

You know what would have made the apocalyptic vision in the future work: If Luthor also had that vision. Say both he and Batman had it, Luthor is fighting with Batman against Superman's army, Luthor discovers that Bruce Wayne and Batman are one in the same, and then he convinces Bruce Wayne to try and kill Superman for him, and he's morally rightfully scared of what Superman can do. The corny line "the Red Capes are coming" would make sense with this.

Instead Batman murders 30 of his employees, somehow Luthor knows Batman is Bruce Wayne, and the producers just said "frick it".
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 9:39 pm to
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The Luthor frick makes it almost unwatchable.











How did Snyder explain that scene to the actors? How did no one, not a cameraman, or the actors, or a grip, or anyone on set look at Zach and ask him what the frick he was doing?
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20314 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 10:12 pm to
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quote:
Lex says "If you kill me, Martha dies, or you fly away, Martha dies. And Lex gives him an hour and then just leaves. And instead of going and getting her. He goes to fight Batman. This movie is so fricking stupid


To me this was worse than the Martha nonsense. Superman can't try to save his Mom or Lex will kill her. Yet, Batman can go and takes several minutes fighting a ton of guys yet they didn't execute Superman's Mom?
It's so convoluted that you really bend over backwards to try to make sense of it (as in, how did they design it to go in writing)...

Superman could have very simply listened for his mom's voice, and when he heard her, did basically the same exact thing he did in the beginning of the movie (in the desert). Locate, exterminate, extract.

Afterwards, spend the next minute tracking Lex down, and end him (or if he's incredibly forgiving to a guy who tossed his babe off a tower and threatened to kill his mom, spend 10 minutes dropping him off at the FBI headquarters, with the remains of the bomb used in the Capitol, and various other bits of evidence).

Another 10 minutes to drop off a beer to Batman and tell him to chill the frick out and go back to Gotham.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:05 pm to
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Ellunchboxo


Well? Why did you think?
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54039 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:17 pm to
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RollTide1987


The movie was fricking terrible, and inside you know this as well.

We move on.
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18783 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:06 am to
Fell asleep. Didn't finish. I'll knock it out this weekend.
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