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re: The First Wonder Woman Movie To Be Set In The 1920s

Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:37 pm to
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You make me want to vomit with your obvious bias. You have no credibility whatsoever.


Why am I biased? I love DC more than Marvel as a comic universe, it's just clear Marvel has its shite together. And why bring Wonder Woman back to the woman's suffrage movement and not just WWII like it has been for basically every rendition of the character? It's only one reason, and that's girl power, like every portion of this production so far. It seems to me that they've put almost no thought into Wonder Woman as a character, but just the fact that she's a woman, and they need to make it entirely about her being a woman. It's ridiculous.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:37 pm to
The audacity of them to make Wonder Woman a strong female
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10381 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:38 pm to
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od, I want to vomit. All they're trying to do with this movie is "woman power"! Female lead, female director, Wonder Woman leading females to vote. It's just clear that the people in charge of this are looking at Wonder Woman as a woman first and a character second. I have no faith in DC.


I know, how dare they actually respect the origins of the character? For someone with a lot of knowledge you really are laughable. The character is quite a psychological study, moreso than most. They can and should incorporate her feminist beginnings, and as long as they make her character kickass with fantastic action scenes, I for one will be happy. And no, I don't think they should sacrifice quality in the sole pursuit of a female director, but are you saying these goals are impossible?
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 8:40 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:40 pm to
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The audacity of them to make Wonder Woman a strong female


There's a difference in making her a strong female, and then making the entire point of her character is that she is a female. This seems to be much the later than the former. Wonder Woman being a woman shouldn't be her defining trait.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10381 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:41 pm to
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It seems to me that they've put almost no thought into Wonder Woman as a character, but just the fact that she's a woman, and they need to make it entirely about her being a woman. It's ridiculous.



I hate to break it to you buddy, but Wonder Woman's character is FOREMOST about female empowerment. You should actually do a little reading about her creation before you make these statements.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35260 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:42 pm to
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Why am I biased? I love DC more than Marvel as a comic universe, it's just clear Marvel has its shite together. And why bring Wonder Woman back to the woman's suffrage movement and not just WWII like it has been for basically every rendition of the character? It's only one reason, and that's girl power, like every portion of this production so far. It seems to me that they've put almost no thought into Wonder Woman as a character, but just the fact that she's a woman, and they need to make it entirely about her being a woman. It's ridiculous.
Yes, Marvel has done a better job. But how can you say this wants to make you vomit? Wonder Women is all about girl power and has always been. That's canon, bro. If that is indeed their angle, does that mean it will be a bad movie or that DC already fricked this up? The only DC movie that has come out in this universe is Man of Steel. How can you judge anything else with DC?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:44 pm to
I like this.

I enjoyed Captain America: The First Avenger being set in the 40s and it gave a great classic and nostalgia feel. Hoping for the same here.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:44 pm to
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I know, how dare they actually respect the origins of the character? For someone with a lot of knowledge you really are laughable. The character is quite a psychological study, moreso than most. They can and should incorporate her feminist beginnings, and as long as they make her character kickass with fantastic action scenes, I for one will be happy. And no, I don't think they should sacrifice quality in the sole pursuit of a female director, but are you saying these goals are impossible?


I'm just saying I see no reason why Wonder Woman should have anything to do with women's suffrage movement. Sure she comes into a military environment that is male run, but do we need to take it any further than that? Do we need to hit the audience over the head repeatably in the "girl power!" message? Aside from maybe Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne, the fact that most of our Superheroes are male is a very secondary trait for them.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10381 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:44 pm to
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Wonder Woman being a woman shouldn't be her defining trait.


You have absolutely no clue about that which you are speaking. Xena is what you're looking for, not Wonder Woman. Dr. William Moulton Marston- Psychologist, creator of the lie detector(Lasso of Truth anyone?) had quite an interesting and subversive view of women and sexuality. You should read more. He was quite the weird fellow.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35260 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:46 pm to
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I'm just saying I see no reason why Wonder Woman should have anything to do with women's suffrage movement.
The reason is because that's what her character has always been about.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 8:47 pm
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10381 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:48 pm to
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Aside from maybe Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne, the fact that most of our Superheroes are male is a very secondary trait for them.



I can't believe I have to say this to you, but in our society the heroes and strongmen are usually male. The fact that Marston advocated a woman who carried the more usually feminine aspects of love and compassion coupled with physical strength to rival any man (including Superman) was groundbreaking and quite subversive in the environment of the day.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28800 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:39 pm to
Screw all this noise. Will Wonder Women be naked in the movie?
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35260 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:43 pm to
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It seems to me that they've put almost no thought into Wonder Woman as a character, but just the fact that she's a woman, and they need to make it entirely about her being a woman. It's ridiculous.
We don't even know what thought they've put in the character. How can you make this assumption? What makes you think they haven't put thought into the character? Clear cut example of full on bias, IMO. I don't buy that you like DC characters better.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:31 pm to
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The reason is because that's what her character has always been about.


This.

I hope they follow this plot. I think it would be brilliant.

Wonder Woman is very much about girl power. Both of my daughters are over the moon that she is getting her own movie.

Now knowing hollywood hacks the way we all do...they will frick this up somehow.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76473 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:52 am to
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The First Wonder Woman Movie To Be Set In The 1920s
What are the betting odds that some white male calls her "toots" or some such, and she gets vaginal about it?
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76473 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:54 am to
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The reason is because that's what her character has always been about.
Wonder woman has always been about the submission of women through S&M.

true story. There have been many writings on the topic.

WW as a true girl power icon came much later.
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