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Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:00 pm to abellsujr
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I don't know, but I know Hulk fights Iron Man. Is there any disputing this?
Seeing as no one but Whedon has seen the film, yeah there's disputing.
So then:
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Second, why does this matter? The MCU is trying to reflect the Silver Age of Comics. A loose reality, fun tone, flexible levels of power and a need for a healthy suspension of disbelief. It works.
Third, you realize that it isn't Iron Man vs. Hulk...
It's Hulkbuster vs. Hulk. An armor built for one purpose: to stand up to the Hulk.
Add that suspension of disbelief and it's all perfectly acceptable.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:01 pm to Freauxzen
Are you saying there's a chance we don't see Iron Man fight Hulk in his "Hulkbuster" gear. 
They showed footage at Comic Con.
ETA: Maybe Superman and Batman won't fight either.
They showed footage at Comic Con. ETA: Maybe Superman and Batman won't fight either.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:08 pm to AlaTiger
Nb4 sentrius long arse reddit repost
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:15 pm to abellsujr
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Are you saying there's a chance we don't see Iron Man fight Hulk in his "Hulkbuster" gear. They showed footage at Comic Con.
Why does it matter whether or not we get the footage, I did ask questions following that. We shouldn't be arguing about whether or not we get the footage, but if we do, X.
Again, why does it matter if Iron Man fights Hulk?
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ETA: Maybe Superman and Batman won't fight either.
You are right. But if they do, what should happen?
If they don't, we don't have to worry about the question.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:18 pm to Freauxzen
OP asked how Batman would be able to fight Superman. I would ask the same question about Iron Man and Hulk. We don't know. We don't know how either fight will go down.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:20 pm to abellsujr
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OP asked how Batman would be able to fight Superman. I would ask the same question about Iron Man and Hulk. We don't know. We don't know how either fight will go down.
Why does Iron Man fighting Hulk matter at all concerning Batman fighting Superman?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:21 pm to Freauxzen
A highly powerful superhero fighting a human in armor. Can you tell which fight I'm referring to?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:24 pm to Freauxzen
There's this, too.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:28 pm to Freauxzen
I think the point is both companies pull this stunt. Folks that don't know comics don't care. Folks that know comics call it out.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:32 pm to Darkknight
TONS of comics have superhuman strength entities fighting humans.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:32 pm to AlaTiger
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AlaTiger
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They overdid it with the special effects and I am really not interested in someone having a pocket full of kryptonite to neutralize him.
You think a weakness of a superhero can only be of the physical nature?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:36 pm to abellsujr
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A highly powerful superhero fighting a human in armor. Can you tell which fight I'm referring to?
Yes I do. You're being way too reductive on this one, see many posts ago:
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Just like everything else, these are two different films, with two different tones. Hulk and Thor work in Avengers perfectly fine. But just because they work there, doesn't mean a similarly powerful hero works in a completely different film with completely different goals.
Apples:Oranges
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Second, why does this matter? The MCU is trying to reflect the Silver Age of Comics. A loose reality, fun tone, flexible levels of power and a need for a healthy suspension of disbelief. It works.
Iron Man vs. Hulk is fine. Iron Man has already been hit by Mjlonir a couple of times. And that's ok. Just assume the armor is some kind of near-admantium composite. Done.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:38 pm to abellsujr
I agree and it makes for great stories. But as you tried to demonstrate, DC does it and Marvel fans jump all over it. Marvel does it and DC fans jump all over it.
Both companies do it because it canals for interesting stories.
Both companies do it because it canals for interesting stories.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:40 pm to Darkknight
quote:Oh no. I have no problem with either doing it. I find it interesting. I enjoy rooting for the underdogs. What bigger underdog than a human against a superhuman. Love Avengers. Can't wait to see the second one. Can't wait to see Hulk fight Iron Man. I also can't wait to see Batman fight Superman.
I agree and it makes for great stories. But as you tried to demonstrate, DC does it and Marvel fans jump all over it. Marvel does it and DC fans jump all over it.
Both companies do it because it canals for interesting stories.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:43 pm to Freauxzen
quote:We also don't know how Batman creates his suit.
Just assume the armor is some kind of near-admantium composite. Done.
quote:Really? Spoilers
admantium
I wonder if Tony Stark makes Ultron out of admantium too.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:46 pm to abellsujr
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Just assume the armor is some kind of near-admantium composite. Done.
We also don't know how Batman creates his suit.
But it doesn't matter in the MCU, because disbelief and flimsy rules. It allows the movie to be more fun than serious. MoS was trying to be way more real which means everything has much more defined consequences. There's nothing on Earth that can withstand Superman. It's that simple.
That's what the OP is talking about.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:48 pm to Freauxzen
quote:But Cap 2 was pretty down to earth. How do you explain that?
MoS was trying to be way more real
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:49 pm to Freauxzen
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There's nothing on Earth that can withstand Superman.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:49 pm to abellsujr
The the books, Ultron is made of adamantium. At least the later versions were.
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