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re: Superhero "magic"

Posted on 10/24/16 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 5:01 pm to
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LSUPERMAN


Obvious Sentrius alter.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 5:03 pm to
Superman sucks, he's always so depressed. Dude you can fly, why be all gloomy and shite?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30091 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 5:37 pm to

So Loki as a sorcerer is OK but Dr Strange is too much? Magic and cosmic forces were introduced before Strange, he is just the first to be so heavily depicted it. Plus they need someone of his caliber for Thanos.


I do think the cosmic/divine aspect of some characters and storylines can cross the line. So far, it hasn't; at least for me. But the more Thor is in Asgard or other realms and you can lose me.

One of the big issues I have with the overpowered characters (like Supes) and magical heroes are they render the "normal" heroes (Batman, Captain America, Hawkeye, etc) irrelevant. To make Superman even mildly interesting you have to square him off against an equally overpowered villain. What is a human going to do against that? The same can be said for magical heroes. "Batman, Captain, y'all just stay out of the way while I save the day."
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 5:46 pm to
Taken from the wiki page;

"Steve Ditko contributed some of his most surrealistic work to the comic book and gave it a disorienting, hallucinogenic quality. Dr. Strange's adventures take place in bizarre worlds and twisting dimensions that resembled Salvador Dalí paintings. Inspired by the pulp-fiction magicians of Stan Lee's childhood as well as by contemporary Beat culture, Dr. Strange remarkably predicted the youth counterculture's fascination with Eastern mysticism and psychedelia. Never among Marvel's more popular or accessible characters, Dr. Strange still found a niche among an audience seeking a challenging alternative to more conventional superhero fare."[9]

I don't have my book on hand, but there is several commments about how great Strange was during the Dikto run and some of the other takes. Dr. Strange's use of magic is less of a means to further the plot and more of a use for surrealism expression.

Comics, with most mediums, is heavy dependent on the writer. My favorite DC character is Green Lantern. His ring is not a solve all plot device. But some of his best work is with Green Arrow where they tackle social issues Marvel was too scared to address. His Emerald Twilight was still my favorite story arcs for comics. He literally destroys the Corps and kills his arch villain. He mows through other Lanterns, stealing their rings, until he goes against the Guardians. It was great.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21152 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 5:52 pm to
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One of the big issues I have with the overpowered characters (like Supes) and magical heroes are they render the "normal" heroes (Batman, Captain America, Hawkeye, etc) irrelevant. To make Superman even mildly interesting you have to square him off against an equally overpowered villain. What is a human going to do against that? The same can be said for magical heroes. "Batman, Captain, y'all just stay out of the way while I save the day."


That was what I got bored with in Avengers Age of Ultron. You've got Iron Man, Thor, Vision and Hulk flying around and smashing. But oh hey, don't forget Captain American can throw his shield really hard and Hawkeye's got the bottomless basket of arrows from Olive Garden.
Posted by MasCervezas
Ocean Springs
Member since Jul 2013
7958 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 6:06 pm to
I prefer cock magic myself
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