re: Stranger Things: Season 1 ****SPOILERS**** Discussion Thread

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I was thinking about this. First, El never physically goes to upside down world. Everyone else does because they physically walk through a gate/portal. El's physical body is in the tank & pool every time, so she never physically goes there. She enters a trance and enters a void (for lack of a better term) subconsciously or in a dream like state. Where El goes is pitch black other than the target she is trying to locate. It isn't like the upside down world that everyone else experiences that is based on where they live with trees, buildings, etc. Their version is more of a parellel dimension. El's version is more like a blank nothing other than the target that she is trying to find.

So one of my theories is what if El actually created the monster. Not on purpose or anything. But she is already in a dreamlike trance once she is submerged in the tank, so all of her fear & anxiety combined with her powers create this nightmare type creature in her subconscience that is lurking in the shadows every time they send her to this "void." When she panics after touching it that one time, not only does her freak out cause enough energy to rip open a hole between the real world and a parellel dimension, but it also pulls this monster out of her subconscience and into real life.

That could explain why the monster couldn't be defeated until she chose not to be afraid of it anymore. It was her own fear that created it, it could only be her standing up to it that could kill it. Also when she apologizes to the boys for being the monster, maybe she actually did mean that literally if she finally understood where it came from - her own fear.

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This is basically what I believe as well.

I am interested in learning more about the "void" they were using with El to spy on the Russians. Like what is it exactly and who/what created it (and how). And clearly El was special enough that she could access it and Hawkins tried to use that to their advantage and use it/her to spy and gain information.

I also agree with you that if it is something that El created (or "created") than the actual monster is more of her nightmares/fears come to life. So it isn't a "real" monster per se at the beginning, but her making contact with it in the void is what brought it to reality. And her freaking out generated all kinds of power and weirdness and created the gateway into the alternate universe. And it also falls into place with what she said about her being/creating the monster.

I am also interested in the fact that she is "Eleven," and how many more/other kids there are with special powers and abilities. Didn't we see a different kid at some point in the flashbacks, or were they always of just El? I don't know why I remember seeing another kid..

I will likely rewatch the series soon. Loved it.

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Big Trouble in Little China

Thank you! I could not place what that music reminded me of.

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It's also very similar to Halloween III.

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I am also interested in the fact that she is "Eleven," and how many more/other kids there are with special powers and abilities. Didn't we see a different kid at some point in the flashbacks, or were they always of just El? I don't know why I remember seeing another kid..

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Don't remember seeing another kid, but maybe so. We know El's mother was one of the test subjects when she was younger. I'm thinking she had some sort of power too. That would explain why they stole El when she was a baby - they believe the power would be passed down from mother to child. Also, maybe the mother was a little older when they experimented on her, so they couldn't harness her power as well. Stealing El when she was a baby allowed them to work with her at a lot younger age, so they could develope her skills.

Wouldn't be surprised if the mother is involved in season 2. Maybe she finds out about El and snaps back into reality and starts f'n things up.

I just want to know what happened to 1 through 10

How was will able to communicate so precisely via the lights?

When sherrif and winona are in the upside down, we see that as they are inhabiting the same space as the real world, there is an energy that sets the lights off. As they walk though the upside down house, the lights in the real world house go off.

So how was will, who we know to either be hiding or incapacitated, able to point to specific lights on the wall corresponding to the letters?

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Good grief man.

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To be fair, Baloo's analogy works on a lot of things.

It would be like your kid coming home with a Harry Potter Book titled The Philospher's Stone. But that was only issued in England, where the books took hold.

That is a good reference because we all know Harry Potter, and the distance the book and trend has to make has to span an ocean for it to take hold in North America...and this is before nook/kindle, so you had to get hardback.


That being said, Jonathan seemed to have freedom to drive around a lot, and perhaps he visited the city his dad lived in a lot, just avoided him.

This series was gold Jerry, gold. I haven't enjoyed a show that much in a long time. Netflix continues to kill it with high quality original programming. It's amazing.

Winona Ryder makes me want to punch her in the face with her annoying voice, but other than that, the show was damn near perfect.

I just finished the series yesterday, add me to the list of those who didn't want it to end. Growing up in the 80s was awesome and this show definitely brought back a lot of good memories. A couple of tidbits:

-The kid that played Dustin was great, he has potential to be a star when he grows up.

-I was wondering why I hadn't seen a single Atari 2600 the entire time, and then finally during the last 5 minutes of the season everyone is getting one

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My biggest question is about Hopper's daughter. They made mention of El's hair and wondering why it was short. It wouldn't surprise me if they used child cancer patients (like Hopper's daughter) as test subjects for their experiments. Honestly El looked like an older version of Hopper's daughter, so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if El was actually his daughter, or if not, that she was one of the first 10 before Eleven came along.

This could explain Hopper bringing food and things to Eleven in the woods, and being willing to work with the government, if his daughter survived.

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Didn't we see Hopper's daughter die in a flashback though? I guess it's possible that somehow the equipment was rigged to give a false notification of a dead pulse, but I'm not sure I'm buying into that theory.