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re: Star Trek: TOS Watchers - Season 1 Wrapup *Page 25*
Posted on 9/6/13 at 9:22 am to TigerGman
Posted on 9/6/13 at 9:22 am to TigerGman
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But man, the sound effects when Kirk shoots the mirror machine out sounded like something from Gilligan's island. What were they thinking?
They wanted it to be spectacular and that was their concept of what an advanced machine failure would look/sound like. Budget concerns, as well as the technology available at the time also severely limited what they could do. They had to add hand phaser beams to the film, for example, so the actors had to stand very still (or they would freeze the frame, if necessary). Their whole concept of wired circuits did not even anticipate the widespread use of PCBs, so when you see maintenance it is always a 1960s vision of the future, along with their controls of switches, buttons, levers, etc.
The LCARS "O/S" of TNG/DS9/VOY - was actually a huge upgrade - adopted well before touch panels were common interfaces. However, these shows all insisted on retaining the "exploding" console effect to kill/injure crewmen in a spectacular fashion and to show battle damage, despite the fact this implies every control panel is a high voltage energy transmission/transforming circuit, rather than a fairly low voltage control interface.
I mean a battle scene between NCC 1701-D and the Borg is only slightly less laughable than the scene you described, including explosion noises outside, in the vacuum of space.
This post was edited on 9/6/13 at 9:23 am
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Posted on 9/6/13 at 10:54 pm to Ace Midnight
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*THE SQUIRE OF GOTHOS*
Supposedly William Campbell got the role of Trelane b/c he was a poker game buddy of ST producer Gene Coon.
I always thought Campbell was a very theatrical actor. That works for a flamboyant character like Trelane but with more more down to earth types like gangsters and cowboys -- the sort of roles he generally played on TV -- it didn't work so well. In the movie Cell 2455 Death Row (1955) Campbell plays the infamous convict Caryl Chessman and does kind of a Cagney/Bogart number, coming off as rather silly in what is otherwise a well-made if low-budget real-crime noir. Campbell is actually pretty forgettable in his other ST role, "The Trouble with Tribbles".
Oddest ST trivia ever?: Campbell's first wife was Judith Campbell Exner, who claimed to be the mistress of U.S. president John F. Kennedy and Mafia leaders Sam Giancana and John Roselli.
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In a 1988 interview with Kitty Kelley of People magazine, Exner told a very different story about Giancana and Kennedy. She said that she had lied to the Church Committee and in her memoir out of fear of Mafia retaliation. She said Kennedy had asked her to contact Giancana, and she helped set up a meeting between them during the 1960 presidential election. For about 18 months in 1960–1961, "Exner claimed she served as the president's link with the Mob. She crisscrossed the nation carrying envelopes between the president and Giancana, and arranged about 10 meetings between the two." She later claimed these messages concerned plans to assassinate the Cuban president Fidel Castro.
In 1997, Exner added more details and changed her story, in separate interviews with Liz Smith of Vanity Fair and Seymour Hersh. She said Kennedy told her of his plans related to Cuba, and used her to carry money to Giancana, as well as to arrange numerous meetings between him, Giancana and Roselli. She also claimed to Smith to have terminated a pregnancy resulting from a last encounter in 1962 with Kennedy. She also said that she had carried payoffs from California defense contractors to the Kennedys, including Robert F. Kennedy. A witness of Hersh's who appeared to support Exner's story of carrying money to Giancana later dropped his story.
Posted on 9/8/13 at 6:17 am to Kafka
*ARENA*
Kirk fights a reptilian captain on an asteroid that looks nothing like Southern California.
Shatner suffers from tinnitus to this day because of the cannon explosion.
Ted Cassidy returns as the voice of the Gorn. As I mentioned previously, the same designer of the Gorn costume would later create the Sleestak costumes for Land of the Lost.
The Metron was depicted by a female actress and a male voice - I would argue one of the earliest examples of overt "androgyny" depicted on U.S. television. Carole Shelyne was the actress and the voice was provided by Vic Perrin - who later does the voice for Nomad in The Changeling and in a live role, plays the leader of the Halkan Council in Mirror, Mirror.
Kirk fights a reptilian captain on an asteroid that looks nothing like Southern California.
Shatner suffers from tinnitus to this day because of the cannon explosion.
Ted Cassidy returns as the voice of the Gorn. As I mentioned previously, the same designer of the Gorn costume would later create the Sleestak costumes for Land of the Lost.
The Metron was depicted by a female actress and a male voice - I would argue one of the earliest examples of overt "androgyny" depicted on U.S. television. Carole Shelyne was the actress and the voice was provided by Vic Perrin - who later does the voice for Nomad in The Changeling and in a live role, plays the leader of the Halkan Council in Mirror, Mirror.
This post was edited on 9/8/13 at 8:53 am
Posted on 9/8/13 at 1:21 pm to Ace Midnight
Saw this in a science fiction English class at LSU that was focused solely on astronomy based sci-fi. It's loosely based on the short story by the same name written by Frederic Brown which is worth a read if you're into that type of literature.
Posted on 9/8/13 at 9:11 pm to Jizzy08
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It's loosely based on the short story by the same name written by Frederic Brown which is worth a read if you're into that type of literature.
A lot of the stories from TOS were adaptations of classic science fiction stories or were written by pretty good writers in their own right.
Jerome Bixby and Harlan Ellison are just 2 off the top of my head.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:57 pm to Ace Midnight
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Shatner suffers from tinnitus to this day because of the cannon explosion.
Those were some pretty intense blasts! MA says Nimoy and Kelley also suffered hearing damage.
Another episode where Kirk is obsessed with his enemy and revenge for Cestus III, which gives the ending even more meaning.
First mention of the Federation.
I thought the Gorn costume was very well done and is still a menacing sight.
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The Metron was depicted by a female actress and a male voice
Which is a simple and effective way to make the character seem more alien. They did this more than once. The Talosians were women, and there may be more examples.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:24 pm to Master of Sinanju
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The Talosians were women, and there may be more examples.
That's a good point - they were women actresses, but portrayed more or less as genderless. I guess I wasn't paying attention.
In any event, the Metron does appear to be an early example of overt androgyny, though - I stand by that.
Posted on 9/10/13 at 12:14 pm to Ace Midnight
Bump for Tuesday
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:03 pm to Ace Midnight
Arena was always one of my favorites. I think it does an anti-violence message pretty well and not very preachy. I like the different perspectives idea. What looks like an unprovoked attack to 1 group, the other sees as self defense. The dated effects, particularly the Slestak/Gorn oddly are not a distractions at all imo. I do always wonder what happened to races like the Gorn? Does the Federation never run into them again?
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Does the Federation never run into them again?
Only in apocrypha. However, they were extremely popular in the pre-film and early film era in non-canon works - they find their way into virtually all the games, as well as comics/novels and were in an episode of The Animated Series (TAS).
Posted on 9/11/13 at 9:13 am to H-Town Tiger
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I think it does an anti-violence message pretty well and not very preachy. I like the different perspectives idea. What looks like an unprovoked attack to 1 group, the other sees as self defense.
I understand what you are saying but that's not really the way I saw it. I thought they were uncharacteristically accepting of a heinous and basically unprovoked attack on the base. I do agree with Kirk not killing the Gorm, but the reason he gave just didn't feel right to me. I would have been better accepting if he just said he didn't feel like killing him was necessary at that point without the justification he used.
Also one of my long time favorites. I loved the way he told Kirk he was growing weary of the chase and if Kirk came to him he 'd be swift and merciful in killing him!
Posted on 9/11/13 at 11:48 am to TigerGman
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I thought they were uncharacteristically accepting of a heinous and basically unprovoked attack on the base
But the Gorn saw the base as an invasion of their territory.. That the Federation was unaware they were invading someone else's planet doesn't mean much to them. I think point was they both would have been better off communicating, but instead jumped to violence. In defense of the Federation, it does look like an unprovoked attack.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 11:53 am to H-Town Tiger
Setting the trap for the Enterprise and luring the landing party to its probable death was pretty underhanded, though, and it makes it hard to feel that the Gorn are in the right, regardless of whose space it was.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 3:06 pm to Master of Sinanju
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Setting the trap for the Enterprise and luring the landing party to its probable death was pretty underhanded, though, and it makes it hard to feel that the Gorn are in the right, regardless of whose space it was.
It's hard to like the Gorn, period.
1. They launched a sneak attack, no warning, no attempt to negotiate, no contact at all.
2. They obliterated a colony, even after it was rendered defenseless
3. They faked a message and laid a trap for NCC 1701.
4. They ambushed the landing party.
5. They drove off the Enterprise, then ran like bitches.
6. Ole boy (their captain) didn't want to chase Kirk all over Los Angeles County (...I mean an asteroid), and tried to talk him into giving himself up because he was too big and slow to catch him.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 5:06 pm to Ace Midnight
Is this the episode referenced in The Cable Guy during the Medieval Times scene?
Posted on 9/12/13 at 8:40 am to Josh Fenderman
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Is this the episode referenced in The Cable Guy during the Medieval Times scene?
I think that was a reference to the battle between Kirk and Spock in "Amok Time".
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:31 am to Ace Midnight
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It's hard to like the Gorn, period
All of which makes Kirks decision to spare his life that much better.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 3:19 pm to H-Town Tiger
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All of which makes Kirks decision to spare his life that much better.
I agree - he even had to pause and collect himself - in addition to fighting for his own life, he thought he was fighting to save his ship. And nothing was more important to him than his ship.
That was Picardianesque restraint in not killing the Gorn.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 1:21 pm to Ace Midnight
Is "The Alternative Factor" so bad it killed the thread?
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:02 am to Master of Sinanju
quote:I hope not.
Is "The Alternative Factor" so bad it killed the thread?
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 9:10 am
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