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Spielberg: "There Will be a time when Superhero movie go the way of the Western"

Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:09 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:09 pm
More superhero hating...

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In a recent interview while taking a break from editing "The BFG," the director spoke about making the true-life tale, the unexpected success of "Jurassic World" and his distaste for superhero movies.

AP: What attracted you to "Bridge of Spies"?

Spielberg: I've always wanted to make a spy movie. This is not James Bond. Only James Bond can be James Bond. I've always been fascinated with the entertainment value of the James Bond spy series of movies, as well as the serious John le Carre spy novels, especially the Martin Ritt movie "The Spy Who Came in From the Cold." Also spy pictures like "The Quiller Memorandum" and "The Ipcress File," and "Torn Curtain" by Hitchcock in the '60s.



AP: Were you interested in making a film set during the Cold War?

Spielberg: I lived through the Cold War and I was very aware of the possibility of walking down the street and seeing a white flash and being atomized. I was very, very aware of what a tentative and insecure time it was, especially for young people. It's something that made a big impression on me as a kid. We were shown instructional 16mm films of what to do in the event of the air raid sirens going off or seeing the flash and ducking and covering under your desk and holding, hopefully, a very large book over your head.

AP: Do you see a connection between that time and today?

Spielberg: There's so much relevance between the late '50s and today. We fly drones today; they flew U2 spy planes over Soviet Russia in the '50s. Our story is also about the shooting down of Gary Powers' U2 and the apprehension of a Soviet spy working in this country for over a decade: Rudolph Abel. And the negotiator — a fish-out-of-water — an insurance attorney who used to be the associate prosecutor at the Nuremberg war-crime trials who was called upon to defend an alleged Soviet spy, and the kind of charged atmosphere he was willing to endure to see justice served. It's a story about a very righteous, principled individual — and for Tom Hanks, it's right up his alley.

AP: This is your fourth film with him.

Spielberg: Every collaboration is better than the one before. We're having a great time together.

AP: You caused a stir two years ago when you predicted Hollywood was headed toward an "implosion" because of the over-abundance of mega-budget movies. Do you still feel that way?

Spielberg: I do. I still feel that way. We were around when the Western died and there will be a time when the superhero movie goes the way of the Western. It doesn't mean there won't be another occasion where the Western comes back and the superhero movie someday returns. Of course, right now the superhero movie is alive and thriving. I'm only saying that these cycles have a finite time in popular culture. There will come a day when the mythological stories are supplanted by some other genre that possibly some young filmmaker is just thinking about discovering for all of us.



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Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:11 pm to
He's right.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18331 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:11 pm to
I don't know if Spielberg is necessarily hating on just superhero movies.

But he's absolutely right about movie genres (and really, all art) being cyclical.

One day people won't really give a shite about superhero movies. Could be a few decades from now, but it'll happen.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18537 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:13 pm to
only so many of these stories can be retread, like what they are doing to the Spiderman movies
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33354 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:14 pm to
Can't come soon enough. These comic book movies are terrible.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58036 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:15 pm to
Westerns were big for what, 30-70 years depending on how you feel about counting the ones in the 30s? Does that mean we will reach a point where more superhero films are made than any other type of film combined like in the mid 50s?

If so, I'm perfectly fine with that timeline.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:15 pm to
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the unexpected success of "Jurassic World" a
No shite. The movie was garbage.

As to superhero movies, let´s all hope he´s right.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:16 pm to
I'm cool if scifi fills the void as the next big thing. Or ww2 movies.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35254 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:23 pm to
Last time I checked, superhero movies make more money than westerns did back in the day...
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 7:13 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:28 pm to
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his distaste for superhero movies.




Then why did he make one?
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37244 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

AP: You caused a stir two years ago when you predicted Hollywood was headed toward an "implosion" because of the over-abundance of mega-budget movies. Do you still feel that way?

Spielberg: I do. I still feel that way. We were around when the Western died and there will be a time when the superhero movie goes the way of the Western. It doesn't mean there won't be another occasion where the Western comes back and the superhero movie someday returns. Of course, right now the superhero movie is alive and thriving. I'm only saying that these cycles have a finite time in popular culture. There will come a day when the mythological stories are supplanted by some other genre that possibly some young filmmaker is just thinking about discovering for all of us.


I mean he's right in theory, but a few things to point out:

1. It's impossible to have a direct correlation between Western and Superhero films, mostly are merged with modern cultural products. These aren't just films, these are valuable cultural properties with Video Games, Toys, Games, Comic Books, Books, Mobile games and apps, twitter accounts....etc. The crowd is much larger and the experience is far different, because....

2. Superhero films are being constructed in a far different manner. This is worldbuilding and content building, not just a movie. It's all of the above, plus TV Shows and other ways to engage content.

3. Pointed out above, Westerns were around for a good 40 years as one of the dominant film genres. So if the 90s were the starting point....Superhero films have at least until until the 2030s.

4. I like Jurassic World and everything, but it's not like it's far different from a Superhero movie.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7038 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:20 pm to
Westerns and Superhero movies in the same sentence. John Wayne and Clint Eastwood mixed in with pussies like Andrew Garfield and Robert Downey Jr.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37244 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:34 pm to
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Westerns and Superhero movies in the same sentence. John Wayne and Clint Eastwood mixed in with pussies like Andrew Garfield and Robert Downey Jr.


Well tell that to Spielberg.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36107 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:38 pm to
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I'm only saying that these cycles have a finite time in popular culture



fair enough

If he really hates the genre he should just throw his weight around and get Lucas to direct a few. That would just about do it
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:42 pm to
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Spielberg: "There Will be a time when Superhero movie go the way of the Western"
We should be so lucky. . .
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30097 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 6:56 pm to
Hopefully
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37244 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:04 pm to
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Can't come soon enough. These comic book movies are terrible.


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As to superhero movies, let´s all hope he´s right.


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We should be so lucky. . .


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Hopefully


Just an honest question, what movies are you personally missing out on because Superhero films are currently the "IT" genre? I mean, with 3 Superhero films this year and 4 next, it's not like they are dominating the box office, or taking funds away from anything else.

What exactly are the taking the place of?
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:09 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

More superhero hating...

Um, not really at all actually.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:42 pm to
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What exactly are the taking the place of?


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