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Posted on 8/2/15 at 2:06 am to blueboy
quote:Um, yes, I have. I was a kid in the 70's, pretty sure I've seen every episode a dozen times. Had a bunch of the toys and models (and damned if those Communicator walkie talkies we had weren't awesome as hell!).
Have you even watched the original series?
If they wanted a Western-type show, you'd use the Klingons. Hell, they had good ol' saloon scenes, crew of the Enterprise getting drunk and fighting Klingons at the same bar, just like your generic Western. Surprised Little Joe didn't show up and shoot a few Klingons too, in those episodes
They went into other themes as well; the point being that Roddenberry created a show explicitly NOT pigeonholed into the hard science aspects. They were off Earth, and you could put them into whatever story you wanted, simply because you had no limits placed on the environment they were in. Want to explore the real-world consequences of pacifism and isolationism, you can toss them into the Depression era, and explore the idea of America ultimately not getting involved to defeat Nazi Germany; and thus a wonderful woman played by Joan Collins has to die for the betterment of mankind. You want to explore racism, you go to a planet with 2 survivors, who are both striped black and white, but the stripes are opposite... see, they look the same to outsiders.
Basically, the approach was to be able to make any type of storyline you might want. If they want to do a heist, they should be able to do so.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 2:16 am to Scoob
If they make more of the new Star Trek movies, I want to see Harry Mudd involved. I loved the episodes he was in. I could see a con or heist being involved, instigated by him, and Kirk and the crew getting sucked into it. And his character recurred in TOS enough that he'd be a legit option.
Not quite sure who'd be a good Mudd nowadays, he'd have to be sleazy and charming.
Not quite sure who'd be a good Mudd nowadays, he'd have to be sleazy and charming.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:07 am to Scoob
I don't think these metros would know how to cast a Harry Mudd.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:10 am to Scoob
quote:Great. What does any of that have to do with Into Darkness' hackneyed shitting out of old plots and becoming a Michael Bay movie that has absolutely no originality?
Scoob
So it's okay for them to dumb down Star Trek because it never was PURE science fiction? I never said it was pure science fiction, but it was a hell of a lot more intelligent than the shite they plopped onto the floor with ID. Your argument is a straw man.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 8:15 am
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:14 am to Scoob
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Harry Mudd
FWIW, they referenced Mudd in STID (they obtained that captured Corelean ship during the "Mudd incident").
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:53 am to blueboy
Impressive thread blueboy, you're getting Rex level downvotes. Well done.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 12:18 pm to elprez00
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Its been said this one is going to focus on exploration/the 5 year mission.
How? The last one ended space travel.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 1:15 pm to PsychTiger
quote:"...all the dunces are in a confederacy against him."
Impressive thread blueboy, you're getting Rex level downvotes. Well done.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:15 pm to blueboy
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So, they really do think they can just spit out all of the old stories in random order with subtle and not so subtle changes
well if you actually WATCHED the movies you would KNOW WHY there is a subtle plotline difference and yet many similarities at the same time, to the TOS ...
but since you apparently DIDN'T watch them, you don't know.
and I'm not going to explain it, watch the movies, figure it out or get someone else to provide the spoilers for you.
the plot parallels are actually pretty well thought out and well done, most of us original-old school Trekies love that they put them in.
but of course you didn't know that either.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:52 pm to Jagd Tiger
So, you haven't read the thread. I had several responses to that but I'll give you a chance to backtrack and gain a bit more knowledge before you post your dipshit opus.
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