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re: so here's what I know about Maleficent...
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:36 pm to WAY2GOLSU
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:36 pm to WAY2GOLSU
Saw it with the wife last. I always loved the original (I know, gay) and while this was a well made flick with AWESOME visuals it didnt do much for me. Without spoiling it, this version of Maleficent is decidedly less evil. What made the original so great was that she was probably the best animated villain ever with no good in her at all.
Again though, it was well made and I dont get the negative reviews.
Again though, it was well made and I dont get the negative reviews.
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:39 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Without spoiling it, this version of Maleficent is decidedly less evi
That was the whole point. I don't feel like it hurt the story at all. It's not supposed to be the same story.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:46 pm to Grrrl
I just felt like her pure evil was the driving force behind what made the original great, and this by comparison just didnt feel right.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:00 pm to Roger Klarvin
Agree to disagree.
I loved the backstory. What happened in her past. It was still dark but in a way that wasn't evil. I think it helps If you don't go into it wanting the same story
I loved the backstory. What happened in her past. It was still dark but in a way that wasn't evil. I think it helps If you don't go into it wanting the same story
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:14 pm to Grrrl
Loved the movie.
Also loved the Cinderella 2015 Teaser
Also loved the Cinderella 2015 Teaser
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:35 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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I think the movie is basically Sleeping Beauty told from the villain's POV.
Books being written from the POV of a secondary character in a prior book have become a big thing lately, its cool that it is coming to movies now IMO.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:52 pm to BilJ
The only people I have seen that said it was good was women. Wasn't interested before most def not interested now.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:37 pm to suavecito80
Well I am not a woman and I thought it was very good.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:41 pm to JinFL
I haven't seen it yet. Thinking about going to see it in 3D
Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:00 pm to iluvdatiger
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Thinking about going to see it in 3D
Definitely do.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:37 pm to SG_Geaux
I'll go see it in 3D when I go see it again.
And yes, the Cinderella 2015 teaser made me very excited
And yes, the Cinderella 2015 teaser made me very excited
Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:02 am to SG_Geaux
Wife and I thought it was terrible. She was excited for it and we found it to be exactly what has become of Disney with these "remakes" of classic titles (I.e. Alice in Wonderland) by taking the original story and claiming artistic liberty to change it up enough to warrant a movie in the first place and to pack the seats for money.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:56 am to ag3ntpurpl3
Spoilers I guess
Loved the first, middle was ok, twist was extremely easy to see coming, and the end fight made zero sense. What she is the entire movie, plus what she did in the initial fight scene is just completely thrown away. Huge swing and a miss there.
Loved the first, middle was ok, twist was extremely easy to see coming, and the end fight made zero sense. What she is the entire movie, plus what she did in the initial fight scene is just completely thrown away. Huge swing and a miss there.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:48 am to SG_Geaux
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Well I am not a woman and I thought it was very good.
I will catch it on F/X.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 11:56 am to suavecito80
Here's my quick review of it.
TLDR: It was just okay. I didn't like it all that much because it turns the whole Sleeping Beauty story on its head, unnecessarily.
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I had problems with this movie from a story standpoint because it directly contradicts the earlier Sleeping Beauty work, which is a classic. This isn't a point-of-view, different perspective piece. This is a total rewriting of the story. If you like the original version, and I do... then you will not like this version. And if you do like this version, you shouldn't. Here's why: the movie takes the main character, Maleficent and dilutes her from a figure of pure evil into a mother figure with a heart of gold. It seems as if Disney, after seeing how popular Maleficent has been via merchandise sales over the years, decides they can't have one of their most popular characters be evil, so they rewrote her into a princess. It spits in the face of the original character, and for what? Will people REALLY like this version of Maleficent's character better than the original? No. Because the original was a unique character, and this new version is like every fairy godmother/wish fulfillment character/gatekeeper figure present in every myth from the dawn of time, secretly helping the hero along from a distance.
The movie also takes a huge dump on Prince Philip, relegating him to a role of uselessness, in which he does nothing heroic whatsoever.
In fact, all of the male roles in this movie are shameful in their presentation of male virtue. The men are all either paranoid psychopaths or bumbling idiots who have to be literally molded and pushed into place by the women in the story.
There is a major gap in character development in not showing why Stefan has a change of position as regards Maleficent and his purpose in life. The start of the relationship between Maleficent and Stefan is told so well. One of the best parts of the movie. But it craters and it's never SHOWN why. It's TOLD why. But movies should SHOW.
Which leads me to my last gripe... this is a very poorly edited movie. It's a relatively short movie that seems to drag along, and even then it leaves out material: why did Stefan turn? Who is Stefan's wife? When did he meet her? Where were the three fairies the whole time Maleficent was watching over Aurora? What did the woodland creatures think of Maleficent's dark change? There could have been more tension between her and Diavolo that could expound on her change from good to bad.
Now, the movie isn't all bad. There's some good stuff in it. My girlfriend loved the movie. But I say skip it in the theater. Wait for video. You're not missing a thing by waiting this one out.
I give it a solid C. Right down the middle average.
TLDR: It was just okay. I didn't like it all that much because it turns the whole Sleeping Beauty story on its head, unnecessarily.
More:
I had problems with this movie from a story standpoint because it directly contradicts the earlier Sleeping Beauty work, which is a classic. This isn't a point-of-view, different perspective piece. This is a total rewriting of the story. If you like the original version, and I do... then you will not like this version. And if you do like this version, you shouldn't. Here's why: the movie takes the main character, Maleficent and dilutes her from a figure of pure evil into a mother figure with a heart of gold. It seems as if Disney, after seeing how popular Maleficent has been via merchandise sales over the years, decides they can't have one of their most popular characters be evil, so they rewrote her into a princess. It spits in the face of the original character, and for what? Will people REALLY like this version of Maleficent's character better than the original? No. Because the original was a unique character, and this new version is like every fairy godmother/wish fulfillment character/gatekeeper figure present in every myth from the dawn of time, secretly helping the hero along from a distance.
The movie also takes a huge dump on Prince Philip, relegating him to a role of uselessness, in which he does nothing heroic whatsoever.
In fact, all of the male roles in this movie are shameful in their presentation of male virtue. The men are all either paranoid psychopaths or bumbling idiots who have to be literally molded and pushed into place by the women in the story.
There is a major gap in character development in not showing why Stefan has a change of position as regards Maleficent and his purpose in life. The start of the relationship between Maleficent and Stefan is told so well. One of the best parts of the movie. But it craters and it's never SHOWN why. It's TOLD why. But movies should SHOW.
Which leads me to my last gripe... this is a very poorly edited movie. It's a relatively short movie that seems to drag along, and even then it leaves out material: why did Stefan turn? Who is Stefan's wife? When did he meet her? Where were the three fairies the whole time Maleficent was watching over Aurora? What did the woodland creatures think of Maleficent's dark change? There could have been more tension between her and Diavolo that could expound on her change from good to bad.
Now, the movie isn't all bad. There's some good stuff in it. My girlfriend loved the movie. But I say skip it in the theater. Wait for video. You're not missing a thing by waiting this one out.
I give it a solid C. Right down the middle average.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:05 pm to SpqrTiger
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why did Stefan turn? Who is Stefan's wife? When did he meet her?
I agree with most of your issues, but thought these were explained sufficiently.
Stefan turned because he was a greedy human. He cared for Maleficent, but cared more about changing his own status. His wife was the original king's daughter. The reward offered by the king was the hand of his daughter, thus making Stefan the new king.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:35 pm to BilJ
excellent movie. great look at the whole sleeping beauty story from a different view point,
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:49 pm to SG_Geaux
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Loved the movie. Also loved the Cinderella 2015 Teaser
Enjoyed the movie. Can't wait for Cinderella.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:39 pm to Orchid
I'm late to the party because I'm months behind pop culture due to parenting. But I wanted to give my two cents...
SPOILER AHEAD, yar!
I'm a sucker for fiction that tells traditional stories through different characters. One of my favorite books is Grendel, a retelling of Beowulf from the monster's POV (Beowulf is such a dick). So I'm inherently predisposed to like this kind of movie.
I like that it contradicts the original ending of (Disney's) Sleeping Beauty because that ending makes no goddamned sense. I love the original movie and its one of my favorite Disney films, and Maleficent is my favorite Disney villain, but the last 10 minutes of the movie are ridiculous. This unbeatable super villain turns into a dragon and is then easily defeated by Prince Charming? I never bought it. Even as a little kid. A dragon with the ability to do magic wins that battle, true love or no.
So, this new ending essentially says that story is a lie, but gives a plausible alternative that has all of the same elements. The dragon is defeated by lots of people, and its not Maleficent anyway. Aurora and Philip fall in love over a period of time instead of Once Upon a Dream. And Maleficent wins, like she should, she just has different motivations in this movie.
Also, the three fairies are incompetent in both versions, and I really liked that this film played off of it. That is definitely in the original.
I do have some gripes though. I think the magical creatures are far too willing to go along with Maleficent after she gets her wings cut off because she was fraternizing with the enemy. I mean, who really is going to trust her judgement after that? I would have liked some challenge to her authority she beats back through her exceeding competence.
Also, Aurora forgives Maleficent way too easily. She runs away because Maleficent placed the evil curse on her and then as soon as she wakes up, Aurora's like, no biggee. We're cool now. I did think that was the opening to have Aurora go live with the people, and cause the creation of the legend.
Finally, the wrong person gave her true love's kiss. the only person who loves Aurora unwaveringly and completely throughout the film is Diaval. I thought he would wake her, and then give her up because of his complete devotion to her happiness.
Anyway, I liked the film. Wasn't great, but it was a solid B.
SPOILER AHEAD, yar!
I'm a sucker for fiction that tells traditional stories through different characters. One of my favorite books is Grendel, a retelling of Beowulf from the monster's POV (Beowulf is such a dick). So I'm inherently predisposed to like this kind of movie.
I like that it contradicts the original ending of (Disney's) Sleeping Beauty because that ending makes no goddamned sense. I love the original movie and its one of my favorite Disney films, and Maleficent is my favorite Disney villain, but the last 10 minutes of the movie are ridiculous. This unbeatable super villain turns into a dragon and is then easily defeated by Prince Charming? I never bought it. Even as a little kid. A dragon with the ability to do magic wins that battle, true love or no.
So, this new ending essentially says that story is a lie, but gives a plausible alternative that has all of the same elements. The dragon is defeated by lots of people, and its not Maleficent anyway. Aurora and Philip fall in love over a period of time instead of Once Upon a Dream. And Maleficent wins, like she should, she just has different motivations in this movie.
Also, the three fairies are incompetent in both versions, and I really liked that this film played off of it. That is definitely in the original.
I do have some gripes though. I think the magical creatures are far too willing to go along with Maleficent after she gets her wings cut off because she was fraternizing with the enemy. I mean, who really is going to trust her judgement after that? I would have liked some challenge to her authority she beats back through her exceeding competence.
Also, Aurora forgives Maleficent way too easily. She runs away because Maleficent placed the evil curse on her and then as soon as she wakes up, Aurora's like, no biggee. We're cool now. I did think that was the opening to have Aurora go live with the people, and cause the creation of the legend.
Finally, the wrong person gave her true love's kiss. the only person who loves Aurora unwaveringly and completely throughout the film is Diaval. I thought he would wake her, and then give her up because of his complete devotion to her happiness.
Anyway, I liked the film. Wasn't great, but it was a solid B.
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