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re: Silo (Apple TV+) Season Long Thread (No Book Spoilers)

Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:23 am to
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:23 am to
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I'm confused. If everyone who goes outside to clean dies...how is that supposed to telegraph "safety


I meant that the person cleaning the camera was trying to show everybody in the silo it was safe, because the cleaner was tricked by the hologram. I’m guessing Bernard/Founders’ goal is to keep the camera clean to show everybody it’s still deadly outside. But that doesn’t seem like a good enough reason to risk that hologram leaking and causing rebellion or mass suicides.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 12:36 pm to
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They think it is safe and take off their helmet, leading to their death while everyone inside is watching. Nichols was about to remove her helmet before she realized the image was fake. This led to her keeping the helmet on and making it over the ridge.


That doesn’t make sense either. The last episode clearly implied that it was inferior tape that was killing them. Nichols was able to go over the edge because her friends switched the tape not because she kept her helmet on

Again though if going outside is considered a death sentence then why project a fake image in the helmet. Kind of cruel to sentence someone to death only to trick them into thinking they’re gonna live because it’s so beautiful outside. Just kidding, enjoy getting gassed.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted by HueyLongJr
Mamou
Member since Oct 2007
536 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:27 pm to
The helmet fake image is to incentivize (trick) them to clean the screen.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27195 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 12:02 am to
Finished this over two nights starting with yesterday, was a bit of a slog to make it through the middle episodes but the payoff definitely came in the finale.


Common was just bad throughout the show.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 12:03 am
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79204 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:15 am to
Couple of things (Ep 10 Spoilers) -

Bernard seemed taken genuinely aback when she mentioned the door at the bottom. Am I alone in that?

Is it possible the door leads to the other silos? Maybe everyone else already knew/assumed that, but I didn't until the last shot.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:31 am to
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Bernard seemed taken genuinely aback when she mentioned the door at the bottom. Am I alone in that?



I didn't catch that but the wait for Season 2 is going to be bad with that damned Writer's Strike.

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Is it possible the door leads to the other silos?


That makes the most sense.
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
502 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:33 am to
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Bernard seemed taken genuinely aback when she mentioned the door at the bottom. Am I alone in that?


You are not.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22425 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:37 am to
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was a bit of a slog to make it through the middle episodes



The whole show is a slog. The premise is interesting which distracts you from just how mind numbingly boring the show is. It really has no right to be that boring given the material.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27195 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:04 pm to
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The whole show is a slog.


What was the best and worst episodes of the season?
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1807 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:13 pm to
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Bernard seemed taken genuinely aback when she mentioned the door at the bottom. Am I alone in that?


The author did an AMA and offered a bunch of insight. Everything he answered was restricted to only things from Season 1 of the show. Anything else was basically answered with, "it's later in the books."

He said Bernard didn't know about the door.

I've brought up the question about where are all of the bodies of past cleaners. He said if they weren't everywhere in the final shot with all of the silos then it was a miss by the show. I've seen some people post screen shots after playing with filters and there were definitely many more bodies out there but hard to see. The author also said (about how long bodies last) things out there last as long as someone wants them to. No idea what that really means.

He was pretty positive about the show and changes made from the books with most of them being necessary to make sense in a visual format versus reading. He did say the stars/astronomy piece was wrong. There should have been too much dust in the sky to see the lights that clearly, but that's a minor thing. It was pretty cool to see him talk about changes he liked and some things he though were unnecessary...again, it was mostly small stuff. He did say the tape was a much bigger deal and probably should have been featured more. In the books, Walk is a man but the author said he likes the female mother figure better.

For the most part he wouldn't rewrite the books any differently based on what the showrunners changed. He has another project being made where he said they had some ideas in that one he wished were his originally. Apparently he had a cameo during one of the cleaning shoots (maybe Juliete's) where he was a Silo person watching in the cafeteria. He said it was surreal seeing his vision recreated and he actually broke down in tears. Thought that was cool.

I started the first book yesterday because I can't wait years for more answers. Between the AMA and first few chapters of the book I feel I understand a lot of minor things I either missed or wasn't sure about. Looking forward to finding out more.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22425 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:29 pm to
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What was the best and worst episodes of the season?


Idk.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25544 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:42 pm to
I get the point of the tape and the role it played, but it seems ridiculous that they use tape to seal the suit only at the wrists? that makes no sense. Why wouldn't the suit be all connected there, just like the feet are?
The people that help make and design that suit have to be mindless drones and idiots to not question this design flaw.


and i did enjoy this show very much. can't wait for season 2.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27195 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:44 pm to
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I get the point of the tape and the role it played, but it seems ridiculous that they use tape to seal the suit only at the wrists?


Pretty sure they taped around the ankles too but I think it is just one of those things that doesn't translate well from book to screen.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79204 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 2:07 pm to
That's good stuff thanks for posting it
Posted by modes
Member since May 2017
257 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 2:10 pm to
my initial thought was that they were gassing the cleaners in that chamber before sending them up the stairs and that would take a certain amount of time to kill them. Then they would fire the chamber after the cleaner would leave to burn off the gas.

So in the end it was the tape keeping Nichols alive. Since she really has no oxygen tank, there is no way her suit could keep her alive for long. Therefore, the air quality outside has to be somewhat breathable.

Also it was weird that he cut her helmet feed so abruptly. What's the point in that?

I would think Season 2 would have be split between the beginnings of a rebellion inside the silo and Nichols stumbling to the other silos trying to garner attention.

And Bernard totally had no idea about the door, tunnel or excavator. I imagine he'll be sending a recon team to try and find that ASAP.
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1807 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Also it was weird that he cut her helmet feed so abruptly. What's the point in that?


The author said it's simply a case of the signal only goes so far before it's lost. That area is somewhere around the top of the hill.

The tape is faulty on purpose. The point is they die before they get too far. They get euphoric at seeing colors and a landscape they literally couldn't imagine a minute before. Then they clean to show everyone before dying a minute later.

I would think they could use better tape and send a cleaning crew out periodically versus the whole game with the outcasts. Unless the air is so toxic they can't be decontaminated enough to reenter the silo.

At the end of the day we know that outside is bad and will kill you. My guess is all of the hoopla and mythology is something that evolved over time as the best way to control 10K people and keep the silo safe. We know they've been down there at least 140 years since the rebellion. No idea how long it was between the earth dying and the (last?) rebellion.
Posted by shotput3000
Member since Mar 2009
77 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:21 am to
If they are trying to send the person to their certain death - why put them in a suit at all? Why not send them out in their regular clothes and then all would see that you die quickly if you leave the silo and that alone should limit the interest in wanting to leave.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
8562 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 8:12 pm to
Haven't read through the thread but I just finished the first book because I wanted to watch this series due to it having Rebecca Ferguson as the lead. I've made it through 5 episodes and I think I hate this series. Why are they straying so much from the book? It's an amazing book. Also, common is so bad in this and the dialogue as a whole is pretty cringe. I'm going to power through the final 5 episodes hoping it gets better.
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
9681 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:17 am to
Just finished it last night. Can’t wait for season 2.

I haven’t read this whole thread but a couple things

1. Does Bernard know there are other silos? Do they communicate with other silo leaders?

2. In the final shot there seemed to be a ton of silos. I wonder how many are still thriving and how many died out.
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