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re: Sansa becoming a b*tch....yeah I said it

Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:09 pm to
Sansa has always been a bitch.

Her mom is Catelyn Stark baw.

To be fair, she has had some absolutely horrible things happen to her.

Her attitude is warranted.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 10:12 pm
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:12 pm to
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Yeah, but I don't see sacrificing nearly your entire army to win the battle as a great strategic decision. I'd like to see someone count the heads still alive when the Vale saves the day, couldn't have been more that a few hundred men. I understand that there are still Houses to pull men from, but how can you trust them when they refused to fight against Ramsay.
. If anything I feel like Sansa fell into Little Fingers trap. Who ever she marries will be lord of winterfell, and having come to her aid he can use it to force her hand in marriage. If she doesn't, then waiting to ride in and help defeat the Boltons means that Jons army is almost decimated, while his knights did all the easy work and have very minimal loss. Little Finger now has more knights in Winterfell and he doesn't seem like the guy to help out and not get something in return. Sansa seems to have fallen into a trap.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:15 pm to
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Sansa seems to have fallen into a trap.



She had no other choice.

Again, as the smoke of the battle field disappears, LF is in the corner smiling.

Awesome character.
Posted by brmach
Member since Aug 2012
771 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:15 pm to
But Sansa is in the unique position to appeal to both sides. She's the widow of the Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North (and maybe with his child, but that's a theory for another day) and the eldest true born child of the previous Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North (not counting Roose). Since no one has any idea that Bran's still alive, she's got the best claim to the North of anyone...just as Littlefinger knew long before any of this went down.
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
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870 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:19 pm to
I hope they continue to show him as a wise puppet master. It seems like they were going to try and make him fall in love with Sansa and show weakness.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11592 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:20 pm to
Sansa is the worst Stark.

Robb frustrated one of the greatest military minds in the series and bagged a perfect nude body wife. His Mom overstepped her bounds and lost him the war.

Jon is dumb...but likeable. Reminds me of a good natured idiot friend you wind up in jail with because you feel compelled to protect this jackarse in any situation.

Bran was a cute kid turned whiny annoying teen but he has super powers and might save the world,

Arya is ugly but has had some of the best Stark scenes.

Nobody really knew Rickon...hard to hate a guy who was basically raised by a wildling and left for dead by his cripple brother because he wasn't a Super.

Sansa's most enjoyable scene is what? Betraying her sister? Getting her father killed and subsequently launching every event in the series? Being ungrateful toward Tyrion for saving her? Her most redeeming scene is her wedding night when Reek watches after she blames him for everything she started. I hope Sansa gets shown the moon door.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 10:30 pm
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:28 pm to
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My feelings about Sansa are well documented here. She's been a horrible person since we first met her. Insufferable count is the term I like to use.

I have, nor ever have had, any pity for her. frick Sansa.





Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:36 pm to
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Sansa's most enjoyable scene is what? Betraying her sister? Getting her father killed and subsequently launching every event in the series? Being ungrateful toward Tyrion for saving her?


What about her poor Direwolf? Lady would've died for her.
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
Member since Jun 2014
2027 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:40 pm to
She's gonna end up being even more of a spiteful bitch than Cersei at this point.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:41 pm to
As others have said Sansa has been a bitch from S1E1. I have sympathy for all the abuse she has gone through but that doesn't make her a good person.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14583 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:45 pm to
Sansa also has yet to fight a single battle herself. She has to rely on someone else to do everything. LF multiple times, Brienne, even Reek/Theon have all saved her arse. She is still the selfish girl at heart, when has she done anything for another person? Now she just has an excuse to be pissed at the world.
Posted by vilma4prez
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6436 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:49 pm to
What I'm trying to figure out is why does everyone love the starks?

They have small brains and big heart... but shite... they all do seriously dumb shite. .

Ned... did dumb shite got killed..
Robb.. did dumb shite got killed
Etc
Etc..

This season alone.. bran did dumb shite got 3er , hodor, summer, the fairy kids dead..
Rickon.. got caught, dire wolf killed, osha dead, couldnt zig or zag... got killed
Arya. . Wasted her training.. killed a blond girl.. now homeless. .
Sansa.. went back to the original abuser , lied to step brother sent her only sword away for nothing... dumb shite..
Snow... fricking bumbled his way through a clustertwat of fighting because he was a sumbshit.. ...
This family really wasn't meant for the game..
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46555 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:54 pm to
Sansa was always a bitch, it's just that now she's a cold-hearted vengeful bitch.

Seriously, go back and watch her scenes in the first several seasons. Most overlook it because she was just a girl who went through some awful shite, but she was a little c unt from jump street.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46486 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:57 pm to
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Sansa: Did it once occur to you that i might have some insights?

well, she's right

jon was dumb for not consulting her
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14039 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:58 pm to
You didn't do yourself any favors asking for downvotes lol.

Simply put, it's the evolution of the character Sansa.

After most of her immediate family is murdered and she's married off to Joffrey, Tryrionn (although he's not that bad), and Ramsey, wouldn't you be a bit salty too?
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44130 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:59 pm to
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this family really wasn't mean for the game



Gee, ya think?

The entire series is about them getting drug into the game of thrones.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46555 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:59 pm to
She was always salty, now she just has an excuse for being that way.

I don't hate her character, but she is who she is.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29064 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:01 pm to
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This family really wasn't meant for the game..



I never got the impression that any of them ever wanted any part of it.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:05 pm to
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Yeah, but she didn't appear to give a damn that Rickon had died, and she wasn't at the battlefield to see Rickon killed anyways. It seemed as if she'd already ridden off to find LF.



She had already accepted Rickon's death. That was made clear in her conversation with Jon.

I do agree with someone's earlier statement about her being a lot like Cersei now. She did spend a good amount of time around her so it makes sense she picked up a few traits from her. She also realizes that she will never be a warrior so her only means of gaining power is through cunning and manipulation.
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:08 pm to
I don't understand why people are blaming Jon for not asking her opinion. She was just standing there with her thumb up her butt while Jon and the others were creating a battle plan with information being intentionally withheld. Even if she didn't know if LF would help if she just tells them, then it changes the entire battle plan. Now Jons army is decimated and LF has his army of Knights out numbering them within the walls of Winterfell. Sansa screwed the north, and now the only hope is that Bron gets back so Lyanna Mormont can marry him and rule the North.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 11:11 pm
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