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re: Questions about Alien (spoilers?)

Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:31 pm to
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But my question is about Ash. It's obviously revealed that he is an android, sent by "the company" to ensure the alien makes it back to earth. Question: if the company had the ability to make androids of that quality, why involve humans in space exploration at all?


its never revealed by the film but androids the quality of Ash may be prohibitively expensive. And I think they say only 1 synthetic per mission.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:16 am to
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efinitely watch Aliens certainly one of the top a sci-fi movies of all time. James Cameron did a great job taking off where Ridley Scott left off with Alien.


On the recs of this thread, I watched Aliens. It was definitely worth it...and surprisingly high production quality for 1986.

Was the momma alien somewhat blind?

You got to see aliens a lot more, but Cameron still did a good job of not showing you too much. My favorite was when they set up those robot guns in the corridors and then waited. For the longest time, Cameron only showed you the view looking at the firing gun, leading you to assume that maybe there were no aliens after all. And then finally, nope - massive holocaust of aliens running into those guns.

I did think the tired trope at the very end of the bay being opened to deep space and resulting in heavy winds but not instant, lethal decompression was beneath Cameron.

Alien 3...here I come!
Posted by Bankshot
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:51 am to
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And another smaller question: when the alien was able to make it onto the escape shuttle, it appeared to be sort of incapacitated and/or wedged into a tight spot. What actually happened there?


This has been debated. There are people who think the alien was in the process of dying, or it was going into some sort of hibernation.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:56 am to
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Skip Alien 3, its boring.


While not as good as the first two, Alien 3 is criminally underrated

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Alien Resurrection gets a lot of hate too but I love it.


Alien Resurrection is god awful
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:56 am to
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androids the quality of Ash may be prohibitively expensive


this
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:58 am to
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but I'm also in the minority in that I think Alien 3 is VASTLY underrated.


I'm on the team. I LOVE Aliens3. It is a gloriously dark and weird film. The reason it is such a turn off for most people is because it is utterly hopeless from start to finish. It kills off every survivor from Aliens save Ripley in the opening sequence, as the credits roll. And then it places you in an environment in which it is absolutely clear that every single character on the screen is going to die. I mean, that is ballsy as hell. There's no point in the film at which you think Ripley and the gang are going to "win". There are just degrees of losing.

I know Fincher hated how little budget he got for the film, but honestly, I think it works in his favor. The lack of resources made it a better, more spartan film. The film is supposed to be spartan.
Posted by Bankshot
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:07 am to
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It kills off every survivor from Aliens save Ripley in the opening sequence, as the credits roll.


This is a major issue for me (aside from the alien egg on the Sulaco that has no logical explanation). I would have had Hicks and Newt survive initially at least. If Hicks dies during the film, fine, but I just thought it was a lazy way to kill him and Newt off.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:09 am to
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The reason it is such a turn off for most people is because it is utterly hopeless from start to finish. It kills off every survivor from Aliens save Ripley in the opening sequence, as the credits roll. And then it places you in an environment in which it is absolutely clear that every single character on the screen is going to die. I mean, that is ballsy as hell. There's no point in the film at which you think Ripley and the gang are going to "win". There are just degrees of losing.

I know Fincher hated how little budget he got for the film, but honestly, I think it works in his favor. The lack of resources made it a better, more spartan film. The film is supposed to be spartan.


100% agree, the only major franchise I can think of that took such a bold step.
Posted by VeniVidiVici
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:15 am to
I think Hicks and Newt were in original drafts, but Biehen either pulled out or was unavailable. And I don't think the Newt actress was ever in another film.

I remember when 3 came out the fact that they were killed off in such a way ruffled a lot of feathers.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:20 am to
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Ripley didn't find out until the end that Bishop was an android


spoiler for aliens

































she found out at the table with the knife trick

Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:22 pm to
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Aliens is a bit overrated


Dude
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:26 pm to
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I'm in the minority's, but Aliens is a bit overrated. And that's not to say it's not great, because it is. But I'd rank it third in the original trilogy...but I'm also in the minority in that I think Alien 3 is VASTLY underrated.
Yikes
Posted by Das Jackal
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:23 pm to
Definitely go watch it. Alien and Aliens are two to great movies!! Alien 3 was good not great. Resurrection is worth a watch but really is pretty shitty. The rest dont bother with.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Skip Alien 3, its boring


3 should be have been so much better. I want to like it but it is just a mess
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:52 pm to
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3 should be have been so much better


The movie went through multiple ideas/locales before they finally settled on a prison planet:

LINK
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:58 pm to
Let me put it this way...if I were to list the best action movies ever created, it would be as follows:

1) Mad Max Fury Road

2) Aliens










3) Everything else, which are not even in the same universe as the two movies mentioned above.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 5:07 pm to
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1) Mad Max Fury Road

2) Aliens


I just watched both for the first time in the past 2 weeks. Mad Max can't even aspire to holding the used-and-now-discarded jock of Aliens.
Posted by drjett
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:37 pm to
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Was the momma alien somewhat blind?


I think all the aliens are blind.

At least the original one in the book was.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:29 pm to
Aliens is a must see just for the one liners from Hudson the entire film.

LINK
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:36 pm to
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Mad Max can't even aspire to holding the used-and-now-discarded jock of Aliens.


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