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Questions about Alien (spoilers?)

Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:31 pm
I realized a few weeks ago that I had never actually sat down and watched the entire movie from start to finish, so I did.

I thought it was really good - appreciated the "slow burn" quality to it that is so absent from most major releases today.

But my question is about Ash. It's obviously revealed that he is an android, sent by "the company" to ensure the alien makes it back to earth. Question: if the company had the ability to make androids of that quality, why involve humans in space exploration at all?

And another smaller question: when the alien was able to make it onto the escape shuttle, it appeared to be sort of incapacitated and/or wedged into a tight spot. What actually happened there?

And finally, is it worth watching Aliens (and any of the other sequels)? I have never seen any of them.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:33 pm to
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is it worth watching Aliens


Only one of the best sci-fi movies ever made. Different kind of movie from Alien though.

The others were good, but not great.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:37 pm to
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Only one of the best sci-fi movies ever made. Different kind of movie from Alien though.

The others were good, but not great.


This
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:51 pm to
Maybe humans are still smarter or able to do things androids can't. I don't know if they ever explained that.

Skip Alien 3, its boring. Alien Resurrection gets a lot of hate too but I love it. Aliens is a must watch, like right now if you've never seen it.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:52 pm to
They weren't exploring. They've space truckers.. Androids are probably way too expensive to eve be near to common. Remember they send and entire spacecraft full of marines and only sent 1 android. Also, they obviously malfunction. Also, they needed to sneak a living specimen back through customs imbedded in a living human.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:58 pm to
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Androids are probably way too expensive to eve be near to common.


I suppose that's plausible, although it seems like the crew were very aware of androids of that quality existing.

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Remember they send and entire spacecraft full of marines and only sent 1 android.


Were they marines? I didn't catch that.

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Also, they obviously malfunction.


So do humans.

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Also, they needed to sneak a living specimen back through customs imbedded in a living human.


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Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:02 pm to
I missed that you hadn't seen aliens. The marines are in aliens and the plan of how to get around quarintine were in aliens (not spoilers)
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:05 pm to
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Only one of the best action movies ever made. Different kind of movie from Alien though.


That's better.

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is it worth watching Aliens


Yes. Aliens is a great action film. Alien 3 is a Fincher film, that's worth it alone. Resurrection is just weird, but a fun weird.

Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:06 pm to
Definitely watch Aliens certainly one of the top a sci-fi movies of all time. James Cameron did a great job taking off where Ridley Scott left off with Alien.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:07 pm to
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Yes. Aliens is a great action film.


Better than Mad Max?

Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:07 pm to
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Remember they send and entire spacecraft full of marines and only sent 1 android.

This is somewhat of a spoiler for Aliens.



























Ripley didn't find out until the end that Bishop was an android.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:11 pm to
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Better than Mad Max?




Aliens just isn't much a sci-fi film. It's an action film with sci-fi undertones. Just don't go in expecting to be wowed by possibilities and ideas and new worlds. It's a balls to the wall action film not a sci-fi film. A great one, however.
Posted by Mavtiger
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:14 pm to
She learns about Bishop before they ever leave the Saluko to go land on the settlement.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:21 pm to
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if the company had the ability to make androids of that quality, why involve humans in space exploration at all?


It's simple: humans are more expendable and more importantly, cheaper.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:24 pm to
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She learns about Bishop before they ever leave the Saluko to go land on the settlement


Exactly. She freaks out during breakfast and bishop makes the comment about how ash's model was an infamously troubled model
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:26 pm to
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Only one of the best sci-fi movies ever made. Different kind of movie from Alien though.

The others were good, but not great.
Pretty much this.
Posted by MaroonWhite
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:39 pm to
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Exactly. She freaks out during breakfast and bishop makes the comment about how ash's model was an infamously troubled model


Yea, if I remember correctly Bishop was doing the knife trick and cut himself and something other than blood oozed out.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:40 pm to
Damn I don't remember that at all. Maybe I need to rewatch this one day.
Posted by MaroonWhite
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:49 pm to
This is the clip: Bishop Knife Trick

It cuts out before he sits down near Ripley and she sees the ooze.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:26 pm to
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And finally, is it worth watching Aliens (and any of the other sequels)? I have never seen any of them.

Absolutely.

I'm in the minority's, but Aliens is a bit overrated. And that's not to say it's not great, because it is. But I'd rank it third in the original trilogy...but I'm also in the minority in that I think Alien 3 is VASTLY underrated. It has a lot of the same qualities that make the original so great.

And Aliens is great too, but it's a completely different vibe than the original. It's basically a shoot-em-up action thriller.

Alien Resurrection is solid as well. Not as good as the trilogy but definitely a good effort, especially considering its the fourth in the series.

Also, I really liked the first AVP (Alien vs. Predator) movie. It's over the top a bit, but it's tons of fun. So if you like the series you might want to check it out.
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