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re: Question about The Karate Kid
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:14 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
Posted on 7/24/14 at 6:14 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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1) she's not Johnny's woman
2) even if she was, Daniel had now way of knowing it
4) Johnny started acting like a psychotic frick, and trashed Ali's sweet boom box. Maybe Daniel should've minded his own business, but he was out for pussy. He might have gotten his arse kicked, but nevertheless..... MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
He damn sure knew after the incident at the beach.
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3) she asked Daniel to show her how to juggle
She asked him after he was already showing off like an arrogant prick. Watch the beach scene I linked again...the soccer game ends up by the girls and he just straight up grabs the ball and starts showing off in front of everybody, and it goes on until they take the ball back from him and continue the game.
Also, Ali was looking pretty banging in that blue swimsuit.
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Again.... She wasn't Johnny's bitch, and this was just pure harassment that Daniel did nothing to provoke..... Unless you are taking the liberty of blaming everything that is done to Daniel is a result of what went down at the beach, which it appears you are doing now.
I'm saying the beach definitely got him off on the wrong foot and he was messing around with other peoples' business that he shouldn't have been.
And you keep saying that she wasn't John's woman, but clearly there was history there, and that they were on again/off again. And the way that Ali treated him throughout the movie, she definitely never gave a single frick about him and only went out with him out of pity and to make John jealous.
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Bob didn't "go hard after the ball". Their intention was to frick with him.
Yes he did. Of course he did it to frick with him, but it was a legal move per the previous poster who mentioned it, as well as the coach who didn't seem to think it was out of line...yet he thought Daniel was out of line and thus booted his stupid arse from the field.
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It didn't matter if he never hosed him down. He had more arse whoopings in his future, wet doobie, or not. Johnny and the Cobra Kai were out to make his life miserable, and would have continued to harass him.
You can't say that. They weren't messing with him at the dance at all until he pulled his little bathroom stunt.
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Getting back at Johnny at the dance might have been the best thing to ever happen to Daniel. Remind me how many arse whoopings he took from the Cobra Kai after hosing down that druggie sexual predator?
Sexual predator? Not even close. Daniel is the one harassing Ali at the arcade when she keeps walking away and her friends even tell him to scram. By most accounts, John was active in the school...we see him blowing up balloons for the Halloween dance and getting along and helping out, while all Daniel did was creep on Ali from the doorway.
And Daniel got his arse kicked immediately after his hose stunt, and one of the next things to happen was Miyagi taking him to the Cobra Kai dojo and getting Kreese to get his kids to hold off from kicking Daniel's arse until the tournament.
And what happens almost immediately after Miyagi got them off of his arse? \He starts taunting them at school and basically begging for an asskicking.
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But yes.... Ali is the real count in all of this, but you are wrong in saying that she never really liked Daniel. She was moistened when he won the tourney.
Nah. Like I said, it was only to make John jealous. If she liked him, she would have helped him out at the club when he was embarrassed and covered in spaghetti. But she couldn't because she was ashamed of him because he was a poor loser who she didn't want to associate in public with (unless it was to piss John off). Let's not forget that she also only forgave him after seeing that he had a brand new classic car. And after watching the beach scene again, it pisses me off that she just sees John and his friends coming and straight up kicks the ball far away to make Daniel go fetch it. All she had to do was be like "Hey, um..that's my ex and we are on and off...just chill out for a minute and don't try to get involved" and most of the bullshite could've been avoided (provided Danielsan didn't try to interfere with the radio). Plus, all Ali had to do was talk to John, whom she obviously still had feelings for, and the beach situation wouldn't have gotten so out of hand. I love how after kicking Danielsan's arse, John tells her "This is your fault." Classic Zabka.
I get that you're defensive of Daniel..I mean, you're Mr. Freaking Miyagi for chrissakes. But you're off on this one...Daniel was a giant pussy smartass and was always showing his arse in a new town and at a new school.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:05 pm to CocomoLSU
Damn, this thread made me realize that Daniel is a douchebag, Ali is a tease bitch, and John was the real Karate Kid.
I'm going to bed.
I'm going to bed.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:12 pm to CocomoLSU
destruction of personal property
johnnys walkman and medicinal marijuana
johnnys walkman and medicinal marijuana
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:27 pm to mizzoukills
Real question: who was hotter? Ali or Okinawan chick?
Ali was hot but Okinawan chick was straight up gorgeous!
Ali was hot but Okinawan chick was straight up gorgeous!
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:30 pm to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:36 pm to Pilot Tiger
Im watching part 2 on AMC right now and Daniel is indeed a bitch.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:09 pm to mizzoukills
Okinawan chick was hotter.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:19 pm to LSUDAN1
1) Okinawan chick was hotter. And almost certainly Chozen's wife right now.
2) Johnny Lawrence was the real Karate Kid.
3) You can make an argument that all of Kreese's actions in the first movie, while sometimes ethically gray, were for the greater good.
4)Terry Silver's plan was sort of unclear. I get getting revenge on Miyagi by having Daniel turn on him but how was making Daniel fearless, bloodthirsty and impervious to pain accomplishing anything. If Daniel didn't wuss out and let Silver continue to train him, he might have beaten the "Bad Boy of Karate"'s arse in the ring.
5) The Karate Kid movies are clearly out of order. It should be I-III-II.
2) Johnny Lawrence was the real Karate Kid.
3) You can make an argument that all of Kreese's actions in the first movie, while sometimes ethically gray, were for the greater good.
4)Terry Silver's plan was sort of unclear. I get getting revenge on Miyagi by having Daniel turn on him but how was making Daniel fearless, bloodthirsty and impervious to pain accomplishing anything. If Daniel didn't wuss out and let Silver continue to train him, he might have beaten the "Bad Boy of Karate"'s arse in the ring.
5) The Karate Kid movies are clearly out of order. It should be I-III-II.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:32 pm to CocomoLSU
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She asked him after he was already showing off like an arrogant prick. Watch the beach scene I linked again...the soccer game ends up by the girls and he just straight up grabs the ball and starts showing off in front of everybody, and it goes on until they take the ball back from him and continue the game.
I love how you exaggerate everything Daniel does to make him look worse, but overlook the shite that Johnny did as no big deal.
Juggling a soccer ball makes you an arrogant prick, but smashing some bitch's sweet boom box is just fine and dandy.
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And you keep saying that she wasn't John's woman, but clearly there was history there, and that they were on again/off again. And the way that Ali treated him throughout the movie, she definitely never gave a single frick about him and only went out with him out of pity and to make John jealous.
There was history, but at no point in the movie were they together. They were off... Forever
She wasn't his bitch, and he had zero claim to her.
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Yes he did. Of course he did it to frick with him, but it was a legal move per the previous poster who mentioned it, as well as the coach who didn't seem to think it was out of line...yet he thought Daniel was out of line and thus booted his stupid arse from the field.
Whether it was legal or not is irrelevant. It was premeditated harassment. And what the frick business of bob's is it? You have a big fricking issue with Daniel picking up a radio that Johnny smashes, with pussy being the prize, but it's all good for ****y cobra Kai dicks to get involved in the spat between Daniel and Johnny? What was their motivation? It certainly wasn't vagina.
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You can't say that. They weren't messing with him at the dance at all until he pulled his little bathroom stunt.
Of course I can say that. They kept fricking with him, and kicking his arse. Why did he always try to avoid them? What was his motivation for choosing a shower for a costume?
They fricked with him multiple times since the beach incident. There is absolutely no reason to believe that it was going to stop...... Until he learned karate.
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Sexual predator? Not even close. Daniel is the one harassing Ali at the arcade when she keeps walking away and her friends even tell him to scram. By most accounts, John was active in the school...we see him blowing up balloons for the Halloween dance and getting along and helping out, while all Daniel did was creep on Ali from the doorway.
Daniel was just trying to talk to her..... Something with which you give Johnny a pass.
Regardless..... Only one of the two forced himself on Ali, and it wasn't Daniel.
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And what happens almost immediately after Miyagi got them off of his arse? \He starts taunting them at school and basically begging for an asskicking.
So fricking what? They had been talking shite every time they saw him for months. Why are you so cool with every dick move that Johnny and Co pull, but you have such a harsh opinion of Daniel doing anything similar?
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Nah. Like I said, it was only to make John jealous
That was part of it, but she liked Daniel for a short while immediately following the tourney. She likes a winner.
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I get that you're defensive of Daniel..I mean, you're Mr. Freaking Miyagi for chrissakes. But you're off on this one...Daniel was a giant pussy smartass and was always showing his arse in a new town and at a new school.
I won't deny that Daniel had his faults, but you're basically saying that the beach incident justifies months, if not years, of torment. And yes.... The beatings/harassment were going to continue..... Until Daniel learned karate.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:39 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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if not years, of torment.
Nah, Johnny was a senior and well on his way to Princeton or Dartmouth.
Within 9 months he was going to be clear on the other side of the country.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:42 pm to Walking the Earth
Holy hell...I'm watching it now on AMC (for the first time in a while) and Freddie is the one that goaded Daniel into making a move on Ali.
Jersey boy was set up!
Jersey boy was set up!
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:46 pm to Walking the Earth
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Holy hell...I'm watching it now on AMC (for the first time in a while) and Freddie is the one that goaded Daniel into making a move on Ali.
And everyone was completely aware that Ali and Johnny were NOT together, except Johnny.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:50 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
I'm sorry but the beach scene does not put Daniel in a good light.
Sure, Johnny shoved him to the ground first but he just wanted to talk.
Daniel gets up and charges him (twice!) and all Johnny does is trip him. He charges a third time and Johnny gives him a light kick in the chest, putting on the ground.
Ali agrees to talk at which point Johnny goes to Daniel to make sure that it's over and Daniel punches him in the face, at which point Johnny mutters "No mercy" and takes Daniel to task.
All Daniel did was prove Kreese right. Johnny tried to show mercy at the start and got a bloody nose for his trouble.
Sure, Johnny shoved him to the ground first but he just wanted to talk.
Daniel gets up and charges him (twice!) and all Johnny does is trip him. He charges a third time and Johnny gives him a light kick in the chest, putting on the ground.
Ali agrees to talk at which point Johnny goes to Daniel to make sure that it's over and Daniel punches him in the face, at which point Johnny mutters "No mercy" and takes Daniel to task.
All Daniel did was prove Kreese right. Johnny tried to show mercy at the start and got a bloody nose for his trouble.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:50 pm to Walking the Earth
That soccer trip was NOT legal.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:56 pm to Walking the Earth
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I'm sorry but the beach scene does not put Daniel in a good light
But he doesn't deserve the ensuing harassment.
And Johnny was just being a jealous a-hole. His friends even encourage him to blow that shite off, but he just couldn't let Ali go, and would be damned if someone else was going to enjoy her hot arse.
One of two things is going down here:
A) Johnny is a psychopath
B) Ali's vagina is fanfrickingtastic
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:03 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
OK, knocking Daniel down the hill was a little excessive but that was immediately following Daniel's trip to Cobra Kai where Johnny saw first hand that not only was Daniel NOT going to let this go but was actively seeking lessons to help him kick Johnny's arse.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:06 pm to Pilot Tiger
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holy shite part 3 is awesome
the halo around terry silver
LINK
Yeah the halo was cracking me up. And the whole conspiracy thing at the end with referee Pat Johnson.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:18 pm to Walking the Earth
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OK, knocking Daniel down the hill was a little excessive but that was immediately following Daniel's trip to Cobra Kai where Johnny saw first hand that not only was Daniel NOT going to let this go but was actively seeking lessons to help him kick Johnny's arse.
You're making a huge leap here.
And anyone calling Johnny "The Karate Kid" needs to have their heads' examined.
Johnny got beat by the Karate Kid....... On one leg.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:19 pm to CocomoLSU
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Yeah the halo was cracking me up. And the whole conspiracy thing at the end with referee Pat Johnson.
Didn't Daniel, as the returning champ, also automatically advance to the finals while Johnny didn't get that courtesy the previous year?
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