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re: Question about The Karate Kid

Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:23 pm to
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At some point after the truce for training, didn't Daniel also mouth off to Johnny since he knew he couldn't be touched?

Yes, he gloats. And that's after the fact that Miyagi gets Kreese to agree that his students won't touch him before the tournament, and he bitches about that too:

ETA: Him gloating and mouthing off to John and his friends can be seen at 4:19 of the "Daniel Larusso Crimes" video that was just posted a few minutes ago.
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Daniel: I can't believe this. I cannot believe this.

Miyagi: What?

Daniel: What you just got me into in there.

Miyagi: Huh?

Daniel: You said you were going to make things better for me.

Miyagi: But I did.

Daniel: How?

Miyagi: How? Just saved you two months beating.

Daniel: Oh great now I really have something to look forward to.

Dude smarted off every chance he got and was nothing other than sarcastic to everyone...even the people who cared about him and were trying to help him.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 3:33 pm
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8063 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:26 pm to
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I'm watching that now.

fricking hilarious.

"This school sucks, man...it SUCKS!"

*Swearing on school property*



Hahahah, yeah the first few minutes of it are hilarious.

"Jaywalking"

"Not putting sign up for wet floor..OHSA violation"
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:26 pm to
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Hadn't Ali and Johnny recently broken up?

She sure says so.

They were very clearly on and off. At the dinner/dance thing with her parents, she dances with John...why would she do that if she hated him so much? Also, when she's dancing with her dad he's like "Trouble with John..?...you two lovebirds fighting again?" or something like that.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
150683 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:27 pm to
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"Jaywalking"

"Not putting sign up for wet floor..OHSA violation"





*gets pushed down the hill off his bike
*Trespassing*
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:29 pm to


"Illegal dumping"

That first clip is gold.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150683 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:37 pm to
*Racist hate speech* when he says Indian instead of Native American.

*Destruction of property* when he kicks over Ali's parents' brick.

He catches the fly with the chopsticks....*Animal cruelty*

I'm crying at this shite.


I cracked the frick up at every single "Excess contact" at the tournament.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:47 pm to
Its about to come on in 10 minutes on AMC.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:47 pm to
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she dances with John...why would she do that if she hated him so much?


Well, to be fair, Ali is a bitch.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 4:00 pm to
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Well, to be fair, Ali is a bitch.

From my overanalyzation thread:
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- Ali is a bitch...with an "i."

So at the beach, when Daniel and Ali are playing soccer, Ali just randomly kicks the ball as hard as she can. Daniel, because he is a bitch, immediately runs off to go fetch it. Why the frick would she do that?

Also at the beach, when John tries to talk to her, not only does she refuse to talk to him, but she acts like a complete bitch by turning the radio up every time he tries to talk to her.

Later, at the country club, Ali is dancing with her dad, and her mom (who is dancing with John) cuts in. Now, at that point, she could've refused a dance with John. But instead, she does it anyway and acts like she isn't enjoying it. Also, as Daniel watches from the kitchen, John leans in to kiss her and she gets all mad. I understand getting mad about the kiss, but why dance face to face with John in the first place?

And when she sees Daniel laying on the floor covered in spaghetti, does she go help him? Of course not. She sits there staring at him with pity as he scurries away.

Then that bitch has the nerve to be pissed off at Daniel at the arcade. Not to mention that she only dated him for two reasons. The first was pity...she felt bad that this poor kid was a loser and tried to make him feel better. Secondly, she did it because she knew John hated him and was trying to make him jealous. She didn't really like Daniel. Not even close. hell, she didn't even really completely accept his apology at the arcade until she saw that he had a new classic car. And to carry onto the arcade point, she straight up leaves her friends, who were clearly there to support her, at the arcade and rides off with Daniel and never tells them shite. They were probably worried sick.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 4:14 pm to
If anyone could throw a fireball irl it's Miyagi.

Daniel lucked up in meeting him.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8238 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 4:34 pm to
And in 2007, Daniel ran over Johnny with his car:

LINK

Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 4:52 pm to
Well the first page of this thread is blowing my mind. I never looked at Daniel for what he is. He deserved every beating he got, didn't he? And he did not deserve the tutelage of Mr. Miyagi. Smmfh
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 4:55 pm to
I've always thought that the Daniel bashing was one of the weirder quirks on this board (not a bad thing - just kinda weird).

Along with the "did she drop it on purpose" endless arguments that used to pop up of course.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
Member since Apr 2009
19368 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 4:55 pm to
Johnny WAS the Karate Kid
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:07 pm to
Has it been mentioned that the whole all valley tournament is under 18, yet in part III Daniel signs a lease for the bonsai business and mike Barnes wants 50% stake in cobra Kai dojos?

For a couple dudes under 18, those are quite some accomplishments
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47603 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:09 pm to
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The whole "leave well enough alone" line was a load of bullshite.

This was going to continue until Daniel learned karate, and he knew it.


This was going to continue until Daniel's dumb arse stopped poking the bear and learned to keep his head down and his mouth shut.

This movie would have been 10 minutes long if he had moved to Compton instead of Reseda.

Instead of the beach scene, Daniel would have been shot and killed in the parking lot of a pawn shop/liquor store for rolling up on another man's woman and sucker punching someone like a little bitch.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18960 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:10 pm to
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So Daniel rolls up on John's woman and is trying to impress her (and everybody else on the beach) by kneeing the soccer ball over and over. John and his buddies come to the beach and John wants to talk to his ladyfriend, and Daniel sticks his nose into their business and gets his arse kicked.

1) she's not Johnny's woman
2) even if she was, Daniel had now way of knowing it
3) she asked Daniel to show her how to juggle
4) Johnny started acting like a psychotic frick, and trashed Ali's sweet boom box. Maybe Daniel should've minded his own business, but he was out for pussy. He might have gotten his arse kicked, but nevertheless..... MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
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After the beach, Daniel gets a little reminder not to frick with John's girl. And what does he do...well he:

Again.... She wasn't Johnny's bitch, and this was just pure harassment that Daniel did nothing to provoke..... Unless you are taking the liberty of blaming everything that is done to Daniel is a result of what went down at the beach, which it appears you are doing now.
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So not only is he talking to John's woman...again...but then he's up there in front of the whole class trying to show off juggling and kneeing the soccer ball. Again. So Bob goes hard after the ball and trips Daniel, who then viciously attacks Bob and gets kicked off of the field by the coach...who is the authority figure, mind you, and from what he saw Daniel was out of line.

Again... She wasn't Johnny's bitch.

And faulting Daniel for juggling a soccer ball at soccer tryouts is quite the reach, just as it was when he did it at Ali's request.

Bob didn't "go hard after the ball". Their intention was to frick with him. Again, more harassment that Daniel did nothing to provoke, unless you want to go back to the beach.
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So John is trying to toke up at the Halloween dance, and he's completely minding his own business and leaving Daniel alone. And what does Daniel do? He sprays him with a hose in front of the whole school. So of course he gets his arse kicked.

Daniel saw an opportunity, and pounced.

It didn't matter if he never hosed him down. He had more arse whoopings in his future, wet doobie, or not. Johnny and the Cobra Kai were out to make his life miserable, and would have continued to harass him.
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No way. Daniel brought almost all of those things upon himself. Had he just chilled out at the beach and let John and Ali work things out, nothing would've happened.

He brought on the beach beating, but I don't really fault him for it. He liked Ali. Sitting by and watching that shite go down would have been some super pussy shite. Doubtful he would have ever gotten that incredibly awkward kiss at Golf n Stuff, had he sat there like a pussy.
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And then he had to do it again. And don't get me wrong, Ali was the cause of a lot of that shite too. Women be shoppin, and she certainly instigated lots of shite herself by her actions (and inactions). But all in all, Daniel was begging for that shite.

You're basically saying that he deserved what would have been months, if not years of torment, for the shite that went down at the beach, and he should have just fricking taken it.

Getting back at Johnny at the dance might have been the best thing to ever happen to Daniel. Remind me how many arse whoopings he took from the Cobra Kai after hosing down that druggie sexual predator?

But yes.... Ali is the real count in all of this, but you are wrong in saying that she never really liked Daniel. She was moistened when he won the tourney.


Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18960 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:13 pm to
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This was going to continue until Daniel's dumb arse stopped poking the bear and learned to keep his head down and his mouth shut.

The harassment continued well after the beach, and most of it was unprovoked. Hell, he made it a point to avoid Johnny and his boys.

It was going to continue until he learned karate.

Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:13 pm to
Yeah, "be strong Daniel, be strong!" She's so hot, tho. I went to college with her. Fine.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18960 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:14 pm to
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He deserved every beating he got, didn't he?

Sadistic freaks everywhere agree.
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