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re: “Pretty in Pink” was released today in ‘86. John Hughes finest work
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:02 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:02 pm to BuckyCheese
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She wasn't hot
Exactly. Nor was she pitched that way. She was cute, a bit awkward and fresh faced, which played perfectly into her wheelhouse during those teenage HS movies of the time.
The locker room scene where she compares herself to Jake's current gf Caroline is spot on.
IDK, but for the Gen.X crowd in the 80's, it just worked. Did for me.
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:06 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Would have liked to see how Hughes had wanted it if they stuck to who Duckie was supposed to be originally with Downey Jr or Michael J Fox playing the part and maybe Duckie winning out. Blaine sucks arse. Cryer while good at his role makes Duckie a gigantic creep, so he was never a good option for an ending.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:20 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The Steff character was the shite in that movie. It was like he existed in a completely different film universe than all the other characters. He had the coolest demeanor, the best clothes, and the most memorable lines.
quote:
Steff : Why are you doing this? Why don't you just... nail her, and get it over with? Why are you getting involved?
Blane : Is there something wrong with that?
Steff : I just think it's stupid, you know. It's pointless. I mean, your parents.
[sarcastic]
Steff : I think they'll be thrilled.
Blane : [defensively] They have nothing to do with it.
Steff : Oh, really? I've seen your mother go to work on you, Blane. It's vicious. When Bill and Joyce are through with you, you won't know whether to shite or go sailing... Listen, I'm getting really bored with this conversation, all right, Blane? If you want your piece of low-grade arse, fine. Take it, you know. But if you do, you're not going to have a friend.
Blane : Is that right?
Steff : [shakes his head in disgust] Yeah, that's right. I mean, if you wanna make the choice, go ahead. Make it.
quote:
Steff : Look, that was very uncool of you last night, Blane.
Blane : What?
Steff : [mockingly] What?
Blane : You mean Andie?
Steff : Yeah, I mean Andie.
Blane : What's the big deal? I like her. Matter of fact, I was pissed off at you guys for being so nasty to her.
Steff : It was way out of order for you to force her on the party.
Blane : [disbelievingly] Steff, do you hear yourself? Do you hear the same a-hole shite I hear?
Steff : What, do I have to spell it out for you?
Blane : [pissed off] I guess so.
Steff : Nobody appreciates your sense of humor, you know. As a matter of fact, everyone's just about to puke from you. If you've got a hard-on for trash, don't take care of it around us.
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Steff : Money really means nothing to me. Do you think I'd treat my parents' house this way if it did?
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Steff : Any girl that did that to me, I would not be too jazzed to hold on to, Blane. It's not worth it. I told you it wasn't gonna work. The girl was, is, and will always be, nada.
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Steff : Why don't you go to take a shower, you look like shite.
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Steff : Are we gonna shoot some trap or what? Cause, I mean if we're gonna shoot, we gotta shake it.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:29 pm to STigers
Soundtrack slaps. Can confirm.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:33 pm to Dam Guide
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Downey Jr or Michael J Fox
Seems to me that of the 2, RD Jr would have been the better fit. I mean, his Back to School character (Derek) was a tad on the odd side.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:56 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Exactly. Nor was she pitched that way. She was cute, a bit awkward and fresh faced, which played perfectly into her wheelhouse during those teenage HS movies of the time.
The locker room scene where she compares herself to Jake's current gf Caroline is spot on.
Like I said, she fit for Sixteen Candles.
Meanwhile in Breakfast Club she's the hot rich girl, which she didn't really fit.
*I haven't watched Pretty in Pink in 30+ years so don't really remember it.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:41 pm to BuckyCheese
She was dolled up well enough in Breakfast Club, but the transformation of Ally Sheedy's character was a great flip at the end. I think it was more about status, cliques, and the perception others placed on each as to who they were supposed to be vs who they actually were.
All the kids realized they were more than what they were typecast by others.
Dear Mr. Vernon, we accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it was we did wrong. But we think you’re crazy for making us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us… In the simplest terms, in the most convenient definitions. But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain, and an athlete, and a basket case, a princess, and a criminal… Does that answer your question?
Sincerely yours, the Breakfast Club.
Claire was a placeholder for the 'good girl' ideal. Proper, popular, being from some level of wealth but maybe not being as squeaky clean as her rep. She may not have been THE hottie of the school, but she was member of the elites, a Plastic, as it were.
All the kids realized they were more than what they were typecast by others.
Dear Mr. Vernon, we accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it was we did wrong. But we think you’re crazy for making us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us… In the simplest terms, in the most convenient definitions. But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain, and an athlete, and a basket case, a princess, and a criminal… Does that answer your question?
Sincerely yours, the Breakfast Club.
Claire was a placeholder for the 'good girl' ideal. Proper, popular, being from some level of wealth but maybe not being as squeaky clean as her rep. She may not have been THE hottie of the school, but she was member of the elites, a Plastic, as it were.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:17 pm to Martin Blank
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The original script had Molly Ringwald’s character end up with Ducky. The women in the test audiences wanted her to end up with Andrew McCarthy, so Hughes re-wrote the ending.
Because teenage girls want the cool guy and most girls want the rich guy. Its hardwired hunter-gatherer DNA...the question women ask: who's gonna be man enough to take care of me? Duckie is no hunter.
Plus Duckie was screwed from the get go.
He was in the friend zone, serving 18 to life, and that's a female maximum security prison even Andy Dufresne couldn't escape from.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:19 pm to STigers
Never seen it. I have a penis.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:09 pm to STigers
I hated that movie.
Hughes finest work is Uncle Buck.
You should be ashamed for this post.
Hughes finest work is Uncle Buck.
You should be ashamed for this post.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:45 pm to sledgehammer
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I enjoyed Pretty in Pink much better than 16 Candles. I know it’s an unpopular opinion.
Same and more than the Breakfast Club
Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:51 pm to BuckyCheese
Originally Molly was supposed to play Allison in The Breakfast club but she begged and pleaded for Claire. I heard they wanted Diane Lane as Claire.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:26 pm to TigerBornTigerBred
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I heard they wanted Diane Lane as Claire.
Now that's a Prom Queen we all could believe.
Diane Lane, 1984.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:31 pm to STigers
Nobody… and I mean nobody has ever pulled off the douche role better than Spader.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:43 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Seems to me that of the 2, RD Jr would have been the better fit. I mean, his Back to School character (Derek) was a tad on the odd side.
That’s who they really wanted, it would have been a much different movie.
quote:
Because teenage girls want the cool guy and most girls want the rich guy. Its hardwired hunter-gatherer DNA...the question women ask: who's gonna be man enough to take care of me? Duckie is no hunter. Plus Duckie was screwed from the get go. He was in the friend zone, serving 18 to life, and that's a female maximum security prison even Andy Dufresne couldn't escape from.
Robert Downey Jr or Michael J Fox was supposed to be Duckie in the original script though. So it wasn’t supposed to be someone like Cryer. They had to change the story to fit Cryer as Duckie.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:52 pm to shutterspeed
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The Steff character was the shite in that movie. It was like he existed in a completely different film universe
He's just...what world does this guy come from...and he's in high school? Hughes had cookie-cutter stereotypes in Breakfast Club which was the point but Spader is a caricature but of what?
Its so overboard that he goes on and on about how his best friend can't date Molly because she lives on the wrong side of the tracks...literally.
Hughes pushes this Outsiders division to an unbelievable level. Its really his most laziest movie because its just a cliche, ramped up to 11.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 4:54 am to STigers
Why didn’t a few (this and Less than Zero mainly) of James Spader’s characters make it into the most hated villains thread?
Posted on 2/29/24 at 8:02 am to STigers
I had no idea this was a John Hughes film and I cannot believe I have never seen this.
Breaking out the oldies tonight!
Breaking out the oldies tonight!
Posted on 2/29/24 at 8:47 am to Martin Blank
I enjoyed Some Kind of Wonderful
more. It was the first time I noticed Elias Kotteas, who went on to much more serious and darker roles, like David Cronenberg’s “Crash” about erotic
Car crashes, “Zodiac” and “The Thin Red Line”.
more. It was the first time I noticed Elias Kotteas, who went on to much more serious and darker roles, like David Cronenberg’s “Crash” about erotic
Car crashes, “Zodiac” and “The Thin Red Line”.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 8:54 am to STigers
Hughes went on such an epic run in this era, over a 10 year stretch either writing or directing:
National Lampoon's Vacation series
Sixteen Candles
Breakfast Club
Weird Science
Pretty in Pink
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Planes, Trains and Automobiles
Great Outdoors
Uncle Buck
Home Alone 1&2
Regardless which you think is best, these are all iconic and well loved.
National Lampoon's Vacation series
Sixteen Candles
Breakfast Club
Weird Science
Pretty in Pink
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Planes, Trains and Automobiles
Great Outdoors
Uncle Buck
Home Alone 1&2
Regardless which you think is best, these are all iconic and well loved.
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