re: Paradise Lost - West Memphis 3

Even with that big ole shiny hook?

Do I think they're guilty? No.
Should they have been convicted? No.
Is it still possible that at least Nichols was involved? Yes.

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I saw Jason Baldwins name listed under the title. Did he have a hand in production?

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i think so? I know the main producer was LOTR's Peter Jackson. It's better than the other three. I forget whether 2 or 3, but one of the PL sequels was a complete waste of time because all it did was focus on that poor Byars guy like he was guilty. West of Memphis makes a pretty strong case for Hobbs being the killer.

Holy shite that red neck step dad.

EPIC.

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I will say Damian did nothing to help them and his arrogance put them all in a bad position through the entire process

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i shouldnt laugh but.. .

Jessie Misskelley's testimony about the broken bottle found at the crime scene have me convinced that the West Memphis Three committed the killings.

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February 8, 1994: Jessie Misskelley put his hand on a Bible and swore to his attorney (Dan Stidham) that he, Damien, and Jason committed the murders. Further, he told Stidham that he was drunk on Evan Williams whiskey during the murders and the broken bottle could be found where he threw it on the ground under a bridge in West Memphis on his way home from the crime scene. Stidham told prosecutors he would believe his client's confession if he could find that bottle. So Stidham, WMPD Inspector Gary Gitchell, and the prosecutors drove to West Memphis to look for it. They found a broken Evan Williams bottle in the exact area that Stidham indicated Jessie said it would be. According to Prosecutor John Fogleman, Stidham directed the group to search the I-40 underpass nearest to Wal-Mart (near the current sight of Kroger), and the men found the broken bottle in that location. Further corroborating this story is the fact that Jessie mentioned in this 2/8/94 confession that Vicki Hutcheson was the one who bought him Evan Williams whiskey on the day of the murders. When the attorneys called Hutcheson she confirmed that she did, indeed, buy Jessie a bottle of Evan Williams on the day of the murders.

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Jessie Misskelley said he threw the bottle and it smashed and the investigators later found the broken bottle at the crime scene. How would Jessie know about the specific details at the crime scene if he wasn't there? Plus he confessed eight or nine times repeatedly without coercion. He confessed to his attorney, his friends, and his family members. Some people claim that Misskelley is mentally disabled which is why he confessed. However, his own defense expert said they conducted an IQ test on him and found out his IQ was in the low to mid 80s. His IQ was below average and he didn't do well in school but he was definitely not mentally handicapped. He was clearly capable of understanding the questions he was asked and responding in appropriate fashion.

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Jessie Misskelley said he threw the bottle and it smashed and the investigators later found the broken bottle at the crime scene. How would Jessie know about the specific details at the crime scene if he wasn't there? Plus he confessed eight or nine times repeatedly without coercion. He confessed to his attorney, his friends, and his family members. Some people claim that Misskelley is mentally disabled which is why he confessed. However, his own defense expert said they conducted an IQ test on him and found out his IQ was in the low to mid 80s. His IQ was below average and he didn't do well in school but he was definitely not mentally handicapped. He was clearly capable of understanding the questions he was asked and responding in appropriate fashion.

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do you really think this is some 'gotcha?'

He was absolutely coerced. It's all on film and attested to in West of Memphis. Misskelley originally confessed (after being illegally detained all day without a lawyer) that they a) raped the kids b) strangled them) and c) it took place in the morning. He said that because those were the rumors floating around town and he went off of what the West Memphis public knew. It was something like a month before they were arrested after the killings.

Whoops. Turns out that a) there was no sexual assault b) the kids were beaten to death and not strangled and c) they were in school that day and couldn't have been killed in the morning. Wouldn't the killer know those fundamental details, like whether they were killed at 7 am or 6 pm, or whether or not the kids were anally raped? Huh? If you've bothered to watch any of the documentaries, which I'm sure you haven't, they make this abundantly clear. The cops are on tape walking Misskelley through his original confession and steering him away from it because they knew it defeated their case. The transcript is widely available. It was 100% coerced and it's on camera. How did he know about the bottle? It was fricking known because the cops fed it to him the same way the forced him to change the time of the murder from the morning to the late evening.

let me put it this way: when the Byers family now is adamant that the WM3 are innocent, that should tell you something

The thing that stands out to me more than anything is the pure lack of emotion on display from the 3 through the entire trial. Especially when the verdicts are handed down.

I'm sorry but I have a hard time believing that anyone would be able to remain so relaxed in that situation if they were indeed innocent.

It came of to me as a "well frick, they got us" attitude. They were just stone-faced.

But then in the "West of Memphis" doc, the guys that came forth that said they overheard Hobbs and his brother, along with the "Hobbs family Secret" story, seemed pretty legit as well...