Started By
Message

Original X-men movie question...

Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22407 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:48 pm
So in one of the opening scenes Rogue is in her room with her high school boyfriend, with a bunch of exposed skin, and when she kisses him he almost dies/dies. Her dad screams "what did you do" and she responds "i just touched him."

Sooooo...she had late-onset mutant powers? She had never made contact with a person's skin in the first 16+ years of her life? Her parents didnt die when they held her as a baby? This character development makes no sense to me.
Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
6962 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:50 pm to
Mutant's powers manifest themselves at different points in their lives. Some of them get powers as a kid. Others don't see any signs until late teens, early adulthood.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35258 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:52 pm to
Clearly there was no sign that she had powers prior to this incident. If there was, she would not have kissed someone.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:52 pm to
Mutant powers do not manifest until your teenage years in most cases. Hence the opening scene of X2 with Angel cutting his wings off. Or the entire Jean Grey plotline.

It also makes it a more clear analogy for homosexuality.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12045 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

It also makes it a more clear analogy for homosexuality.


Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11316 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:56 pm to
Mutants have the lamest origins ever.
Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
6962 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:56 pm to
You didn't know bro? X Men is just gay propaganda.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150643 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Clearly there was no sign that she had powers prior to this incident. If there was, she would not have kissed someone.

This. That was fairly straightforwardly presented IMO.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58330 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:58 pm to
Well it wasn't until Magneto's mom was separated from him that his powers came about. Maybe with Rogue being intimate with the BF made hers appear. An emotional and/or physical trigger.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22407 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:00 pm to
So powers come with puberty...got it. When reading minds, maybe Dr. X should touch his nuts instead of his temple.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12045 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:02 pm to
are we talking about x-men of today? because im pretty sure it was about racial discriminations when it started.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58330 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:03 pm to
Why are mutant powers not like anything else coded into our bodies? Not everyone hits growth spurts at the same time, why would everyone have to get their powers at the same time?

It's just a thought as to why hers weren't present throughout her entire life.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47590 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

are we talking about x-men of today? because im pretty sure it was about racial discriminations when it started.


Correct. Professor X and Magneto were meant to represent Dr. Martin Luther King and Malcome X, respectively.

One had a dream of peaceful coexistence and the other was more "By any means necessary".
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

are we talking about x-men of today? because im pretty sure it was about racial discriminations when it started.

Yes. And it moved on to gay allegory in the 80s/90s. Hence the Legacy Virus storyline. Also, Bryan Singer was the director of the first two X-Men movies, and he's an outspoken gay activist. He clearly leaned more on the gay metaphor than the race metaphor.

Hate to break it to you: the X-Men are stand ins for gay people.

Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32417 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:16 pm to
Singer's X-Men movies are obviously a gay parable.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12045 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Hate to break it to you: the X-Men are stand ins for gay people.


i really dont care either way. its really just meant to represent "outcasts," which can be anyone of any race, gender, sexuality, etc.

i really never got huge homosexual undertones from any of the films though. if so:
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Hate to break it to you: the X-Men are stand ins for gay people.


So help me God if you say Magneto takes it up the arse...*shakingfist*
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11316 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:27 pm to

Darkseid pushed it in pretty hard for him in the tourney last week.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Magneto

Ian MacKellan is gay.

Also, I will point out that Magneto and Charles Xavier's lifelong friendship despite being at literal war with one another is a lot easier to explain if there is a romantic/sexual component to it. It is certainly passionate and lifelong, and both men are romantically unentangled.

But it's a metaphor for homosexuality, not literal.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12045 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Singer's X-Men movies are obviously a gay parable.


so is Magneto's character meant to represent those who want to turn everyone gay? is x2 about trying to hide your gay evolution and also wolverine discovering his hidden, gay origins?

some themes might be there, but the generic outsider motif fits way more. also allows each person to find themselves in the story.

just curious, how many characters (not actors) in xmen are gay? havent followed in a few years. anyone of note or just minor characters?
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram