re: Official The Walking Dead S05E12 "Remember" NO COMICS

IIRC, Kirkman said that it was a few weeks after Terminus when we first saw Morgan. He has some catching up to do.

Solid episode last night.

I'm sure it's been discussed, but it really bugged me that the braces for the fence were on the outside, so much so that I wonder if that will come into play at some point.

I still think that this place will be "good," and for several reasons. First and foremost, the creators usually seem to try to mislead the viewer. With Terminus and Woodbury, they were portrayed as nice, good, safe places, when in actuality there were really bad/evil things underneath. So now that Alexandria is being shown as a place with potentially bad/hidden things, I am assuming that there won't really be much and it'll just be a fairly normal place. You could tell from the previews from last week, when it showed Carl with his knife drawn opening that door, that there would be nothing on the other side...it was just an attempt to create tension and drama.

Secondly, EVERY community can't be bad and filled with psychopaths, can they? Surely even in a zombie apocalypse there would still have to be some sort of decent humans around. So far, this group hasn't come across any good people (even the "harmless" mexicans at that hospital drew down on Rick and company and tried to steal their weapons and supplies. I guess technically, Herschel and his family were good people. But outside of that, that's about it.

Thirdly, it could be a shift in the show if this community is good and Rick and company are actually the "bad guys" this time. Rick alluded to that at the end of the episode with the "If they go soft, then we'll just take this place."

I hope we get to see soon just how big this place is, because it looks fricking gigantic. Also would like to know how many people there were.

That blonde Jessie chick looked familiar, but I couldn't place her though. She was pretty hot though. And I thought the "tense" buildup with her husband was pretty awkward/funny.

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Deanna's husband was professor of architecture. He knew what he was doing

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It's a typical architect design. It is aesthetically pleasing but is not practical. If an engineer would have designed it the braces would have been on the other side which is the correct way to do it. I wonder if this was an oversight in the set design or if there is an actual reason (ie keeping people in not out). I'm thinking it is just a blunder in the set design. Look at the way Carl's old lady scaled the fence without any issue. I highly doubt that wall alone would keep the living out or in.

Didn't Deanna say that they hadn't let anyone in for a long time, but then the young guys said that the young girl had only been there a few weeks. I wonder if the young girl is a spy for the wolves and she is sneaking out giving them intel and supplies.

I've never read the comics, or the spoiler threads, just an observation.

Also I assume that the girl was at least one of the ones using the upstairs room where Carl found that paper that had something about wolves written on it.

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That's a hell of a catch or you've been reading the comics and it's a possible spoiler. I hope it's the former.

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Havent read the comics and it's easy to me to see how he came to this conclusion.

She scaled the fence and was able to lose carl, they never went back to explain what she was doing (im pretty sure she took Rick's blender gun as well)

She is also from the "outside", which means the 3 exiled guys are most likely her crew.

With the 3 exiled people pretty much being identified as the wolves from everyone in this thread already...it makes sense.

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I highly doubt that wall alone would keep the living out or in.

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Not only are the braces on the wrong side, but they have a huge perimeter with no one guarding it. As you stated, the young girl and Carl easily scaled the wall to get out, and she must be returning the same way. Another group could easily get in and do major damage before they even realized they were under attack.

I would think constable Rick would try to put some new security measures in place.

Perhaps Darryl will give us a "you need me on that wall."

The first thing they need to do is re-brace the wall from the inside. The second thing they need to do is cut down the size of the complex because there's no way they can guard a wall that big.

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That's a hell of a catch or you've been reading the comics and it's a possible spoiler. I hope it's the former.

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I think it's a good catch and talked with some coworkers about it this morning. About her: i got the impression she was with a group but now it seems she may be alone. Clearly there is something to her. Does she know the "secret?" Were the 3 exiled ones part of her group?

Overall, I really enjoyed Carol's demeanor and ah shucks, happy den mother just hoping to help, shtick.

You knew this had to be more nuanced than the whole bate and switch terminus safe spot, and I really like what possibilities may exist.

I think this group has to be smarter/tougher/savvy than they appear, but Rick's groups fills a clear void in that department. Maybe supplies are running low, law and order needs to be dispensed?

With all the rightful paranoia, they seem to ignore the idea they may be being taped or recorded. They have video and sound and electricity. Why not bug their house?

Also, looking forward to Abraham's perspective on things, hopefully soon.

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I thought the boys said Enid had been there for 8 months, but that it had taken her a few weeks to start talking to them.

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Correct. Still Deanna said it had been a long time since anyone had been considered. I guess "Long" is relative in the ZA.

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But deep down, this is what Rick wanted. He just didn't think it could be achieved and him now becoming a Sheriff again should do wonders for his state of mind.

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I agree, but does Deanna realize this and it's her way of getting buy in from Rick?