re: Official Big Brother 17 Season Long Thread (Spoilers/Live Feeders/Maybe NSFW)

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ZINGBOT ?@ZlNGBOT How can you tell the twins apart? Julia has 10 fingers, while Liz has 11. ZIIING!! #

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Free replay of the episode is on CBS.com

Zings were kind of lame but I would have been on the floor with that Austings gf Zing

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1:00 AM Liz still annoyed Aus isn't eagerly helping her study. Liz: "I just wanted to be like Janelle." Aus: "You are. You're better"

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just read jokers for the morning occurrences. looks like jmac finally trying to make shite happen. he going hard campaigning to meg and james

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Just read that as well. If he gets Vanessa on board, and they blind side Steve he may have serious breakdown on live tv. Would be epic.

Here is the details from the Johnny Mac Meg then James convo earlier today. First convo of the day that leads to everything else. -Lbc Less...
Have not room Meg and Jmac
Meg comes in the room
J.....is Steve right outside?
M......yeah what's up but he went upstairs
J......at some point today they are going to tell me Im going home. I'm going to tell you everything.
M......s!!! Ok
J......this Is a lot of Information. around week 4 or 5 Steve came to me for a final 2 deal.
M.....I figured that
J.....we haven't been on the same page with things but we haven't gone after each other. The big thing was that for double eviction I won and wanted to send Vanessa home. He wanted to send Jackie home. for some reason I couldn't figure out. We couldn't come to agreement on That then. the next week I wanted to send Van home. It's me and Becky on the block. It looks like Becky is going. I say to Steve Its going to be you and me In this game, we need to side with one of these alliances. We choose austwins because there are threesome. So Steve bring me up there we make a final 5 deal which Is what they are talking about. Afterwards I come downstairs. Im on Steves side. he says to me I have something to tell you. He says I have had a final 4 deal since gronk pong with Van,aust and Liz then became 5 w ju. That's why I told Vanessa about the final 5 deal which pissed her off.
M.....yeah because they already had a deal

J......yeah Steve Is their lapdog he has been for a very long time. Now Vanessa sees she Is on the outside. I know what they have been telling me. I don't know what they told you but I bet Its some combination of If you guys win take me Van or Steve out. Well probably not Steve whoever comes back.

Meg has been saying yes yes nodding her head the whole time
M......they said Vanessa obviously
J......I have been hearing the same take you guys out preferably James and whoever comes back. Or Vanessa.
M.....right
J......we are In a situation now where they were dumb enough to put their lapdog up on the block. I'm pretty sure I can convince Vanessa to keep me. The only reason she Is 50/50 Is she wanted the switch.
M......her and I had a conversation upstairs before anything happens last night so we were going to leave It to morning to find out. They wanted you to go. Vanessa and I wanted you to stay for our game Its better because Steve Is better at mental comps.
J.....right they want Steve because he has to flip eventually but I will be later than me. When they tell me they are voting me out then they turned on the deal w me and I can go after them. So If we flip the vote 3-2 Ill own It! As Steve walks out the door I will say I orchestrated this whole thing. Codyme after me. If we win hoh that 4 against 2. If you keep Steve he will put u up. He won't turn on the. This week It will be the week after. If I win hoh Im putting those three up. You guys win do whatever the hell u want. But If they win Ill own It. I'll ask to be put on the block. I'll sit down during veto. I'll tell everyone to vote me out.

M.....Is that how to deal with It before because If they are blindsided Its going to be like holy sh!!
J.....Ill say I own It. I did It. I don't know If Vanessa Is on board but around 5 o'clock meet In the purple room. You and James me and Vanessa. I'll turn to James and say (hard to hear) that eviction go. James can turn to Vanessa and say It and then we know we don't need to meet up before. It would be epic

Meg has been saying sh!! The last few comments In reply to Jmac
J.....If we don't do It Its James Vanessa next week or who comes back.
M...Steve won't tell us who he Is going after It makes us nervous
J.....right Its time for a blindside
M....sh!! You have to talk to Vanessa
J.....I will after James Im going to tell him what I told you.
M......tell her for my purposes though that we are flip flop pets. Just say we are flip flopping. I will want to talk to Vanessa. Calebuse honestly upstairs I was so flipping out but then It was like ok whatever Its what basically them
J.....but If you let them have what they want
M.....I know I know
J.....James Is at risk you are not.
M.....I know I know
J.....send James In here

She leaves goes to James

M.....Its making me nervous they haven't put us up but that doesn't mean they won't
J....next week
M....he Is saying he can get Vanessa to flip we take out Steve. He will take full blood and go after them.
James goes to talk to Jmac In haven't room

J.....I have to be quarterback fast because everyone Is scurrying around.
Jm.....they aren't? Ok Ill go as quickly as I can. They are going to tell me I. Going home In a few hours. I just gave Meg a lot of Info Id rather you hear It from her that's less suscpicios. Week 4 Steve came to me with a final 2 deal. I'm thinking we are In a final two deal at de I want to get rid of Vanessa he Is dead set on Jackie. Next week Becky and I are up Im like Steve we need to side with Ine of these people we make a final 5 w austwins. There are three of them other people will go after those three first. After that Steve tells me he has been working with them since grind pong him Vanessa Austin Liz then Julia. Him and Vanessa were bumped out a little

J.....because If me and Meg?
Jm....no they have a final 3 the austwins. I tell Vanessa about our final 5 she got mad. Steve Is their lapdog he Isnt going to flip on them. With me they made that deal then turned In me. I have every reason to go after them next week. If we change the vote I can get Vanessa she Is Mad. I'm going to talk to her but I won't say you guys are on board. I'll solve It. At 5 we all meet In the purple room sit In our beds Ill say to Vanessa that eviction go she will turn to Meg and everyone will say It to each other. How's that If Vanessa Is there and says It. Here Is the thing If we do It as soon as Steve Is evicted Ill own It. I orchestrated It. Then four of us against Julia and Liz. If you keep Steve he Is coming after you
J.....me?
Jim......I know you and Meg have had talks with them. Probably they go along the lines of you have to put jm up against returning juror or Vanessa. I have had the same talks with them I have to put up James. I'm sick of It.

J.....they told you that?
Jm.....I have to put you up If I stay.
J.....damn
Jm....you and whoever comes back just not them
J......what about Meg
Jm......yeah she can go up too. You are more of a threat. After Steve leaves I will own this whole thing before hoh. I will tell them I orchestrated It. If you guys win hoh do whatever you want. I win I won't put you Guys ho Im going after those three. If they win Ill volunteer for the block, sit out veto and ask to be evicted. You guys are bound by loyalty next week because they at getting rid of the only guy that can stab them in the back. You have to take out each other
It's just a vote right

J......only way to do that Is w Van she has to say that
Jm ......you don't have to talk to her first Ill do that and set It up then meet at 5 Ill do everything.
J.....If she doesn't say It
Jm.....then send me out.

James leaves

Vanessa ratted out JMac's plan a little bit ago. It's done. They all know what JMac, James, and Meg were trying to do, and it failed.

Vanessa picked the shitty side of the house, and an alliance she can never penetrate (Austwins).

But at least Meg and James and now on to the Austwins. One of them has to be taken out next week, or you can just go ahead and write in one of their names (or tow of their names) in the final 2.

So which was the bigger turning point of the season - Vanessa not backdooring Austin, or Steve getting Jackie out?

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Vanessa ratted out JMac's plan a little bit ago. It's done. They all know what JMac, James, and Meg were trying to do, and it failed.

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Of course she did. She ruins all the potential fun

Well they did keep James and Meg off the block the past two weeks