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re: OFFICIAL - The Dark Knight Rises Discussion Thread - *SPOILERS*
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:03 am to Siderophore
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:03 am to Siderophore
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How did he get out at the end?
Of the Bat? It was pretty obvious that after the explosion witnessed by JGL and the school children, he ejected and the auto pilot took over from there.
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) Where exactly were his injuries? I couldn't decide if he was faking it all Yoda style or not. He certainly wasn't crippled at the end of DK and he was mobile enough a second after a doctor stating he had zero cartilage.
He developed osteoarthritis, and appeared to have a bum knee as well. OA doesn't immobilize you, but it can encumber your physical endeavors.
Exercise and physical activity is actually palliative in the management of OA.
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12 hours later someone suddenly lost their entire fortune?
Didn't the film hint that the fund was running dry prior to this scene? Wayne Enterprises spent a significant amount on that energy project, which ultimately fell through and was shut down.
I plan on seeing it again, but Bane is cognizant of the fact that their transmissions were jammed. I can't exactly recall his response. Did they make the transactions before the transmissions were severed?
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 8:06 am
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Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:03 am to WicKed WayZ
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Sorry bro I try to enjoy my movie, not disect ever flaw
That's fine, but that's not what happened here.
All I said that you gave an explaination that didn't fit the movie...at all.
These aren't vague hints in the background I am talking about...and if you missed them, I have to wonder what movie you were "enjoying"
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:10 am to Polar Bear
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Didn't the film hint that the fund was running dry prior to this scene? Wayne Enterprises spent a significant amount on that energy project, which ultimately fell through and was shut down.
Eh, wouldn't say running dry.
It was personal wealth they attacked, and it was Wayne Enterprises that funded the Foundation earlier...remember the two are separate.
He was shocked at the cash flow problem, and was still hosting lavish parties.
While things may not have been financially heady, he wasn't dry yet.
Point still stands, you would think any rapid stock shift associated with the breakin would be scrutinized.
And I know about the injuries...but he flipped it off and on like a switch.
One second he needs the cane, the next he leaps over a window sill light as a feather.
The work out in the pit being rehab makes sense...but before that? And what was the leg thing? It seemed to be some kind of bionic attachment/aid (which would explain a lot), but it's never explained.
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 8:21 am
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:12 am to Siderophore
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They were already IN Italy when Alfred saw for the first time he was alive.
How do we know that's when Alfred discovered that Bruce was alive?
Alfred was practically a father to Bruce - I doubt he would run away to Florence with a girl he's known for a few months without even attempting to contact Alfred.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:14 am to Polar Bear
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I plan on seeing it again, but Bane is cognizant of the fact that their transmissions were jammed. I can't exactly recall his response. Did they make the transactions before the transmissions were severed?
Nah, they said they needed 8 minutes to work the program, and Bane was told that after he was told they were cut off.
He did say something in response to being cut, but I didn't catch it.
Something to the effect of it going as planned?
But if so, that seems like lazy writing. How is it going to plan? How did they overcome it?
Unless they had all they needed, and the "let's get mobile" line was from them uploading whatever they needed on the tablet and it did the transactions while on the go
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:16 am to Siderophore
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One second he needs the cane, the next he leaps over a window sill light as a feather.
The work out in the pit being rehab makes sense...but before that? And what was the leg thing? It seemed to be some kind of bionic attachment/aid (which would explain a lot), but it's ne ER explained.
Well, he likely had OA in most of his joints, but he seemed to have a bum knee, hence the cane. When he decides to get back into things, he becomes a little more pro active about his care, and goes for the mechanical knee brace. No more pain, no more limp.
And such injuries are usually due to inflammation - it's not like he had a torn ACL or anything. Inflammatory injuries typically subside over time with proper care.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:19 am to Siderophore
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Unless they had all they needed, and the "let's get mobile" line was from them uploading whatever they needed on the tablet and it did the transactions while on the go
This makes sense. Didn't Bruce acquire the tablet at the end of the chase scene? He was off the bike being swarmed by the police, but he was staring at the screen, seemingly dumbfounded and shocked.
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 8:20 am
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:19 am to Polar Bear
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How do we know that's when Alfred discovered that Bruce was alive?
So him doing the same, fantazizing routine that he said he did while Bruce was MIA (and specifically during that time) was mere coincidence?
Granted though, you are right, we don't know if that was his first clue. Although it was fly in the face of what was given to us on screen.
Doesn't change that there wasnt a Wayne fortune to share, which wasn't vague.
And the father figure angle was why he allowed him to be seen at all.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:21 am to Polar Bear
I think he only took the antenna/card rather than the tablet
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:22 am to TiGeRTeRRoR
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If you think it was a dream, you're trying WAY too hard.
I agree, but it Won't stop people from thinking it. Dumbs gonna Dumb
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:24 am to Siderophore
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So him doing the same, fantazizing routine that he said he did while Bruce was MIA (and specifically during that time) was mere coincidence?
Well, that's what I'm thinking - it wasn't coincidence. They made it a reality after Bruce reached out to Alfred to let him know he wasn't actually dead. It would seem unreasonable that a fictional dream of Alfred's would suddenly just occur, just as he had dreamed.
Also, when Alfred told Bruce about his dream for him, didn't he tell him that he had been imagining that while Bruce was away from Gotham (back during the events of Begins) - that he had left forever to make a life for himself, and that he would never return?
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 8:27 am
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:24 am to Siderophore
Double post.
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 8:25 am
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:27 am to TiGeRTeRRoR
Why would Bane/League of Shadows work so hard to Ruin Gotham financially and Then blow it up with a Nuke? doesn't make a lick of sense. if you are going to Nuke an entire city and basically kill everyone, it makes financial ruin kind of a moot point.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:28 am to Tiger Ryno
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Why would Bane/League of Shadows work so hard to Ruin Gotham financially
In what way did they try and do this?
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:28 am to Siderophore
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And I know about the injuries...but he flipped it off and on like a switch.
One second he needs the cane, the next he leaps over a window sill light as a feather.
I think that the cane was more a literal representation of how he felt emotionally. He was broken from Rachel's death and his no longer being Batman that he used the cane because he just felt he needed it, and it was the only way he could get around because in his mind he was broken/crippled.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:29 am to Polar Bear
Yes. He said exactly that.
The whole point was that for the period he went missing in Begins, Alfred dealt with it by assuming he was alive, somewhere, happy with his life, and all ties severed from Gotham.
He even tells Waye specifically which cafe he went to regularly.
IMO, that scene doesn't make sense in any other way than that was Bruce telling him that he was not only alive, but happy.
The whole point was that for the period he went missing in Begins, Alfred dealt with it by assuming he was alive, somewhere, happy with his life, and all ties severed from Gotham.
He even tells Waye specifically which cafe he went to regularly.
IMO, that scene doesn't make sense in any other way than that was Bruce telling him that he was not only alive, but happy.
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 8:34 am
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:29 am to Siderophore
Agree 100%
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:31 am to Tiger Ryno
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Why would Bane/League of Shadows work so hard to Ruin Gotham financially and Then blow it up with a Nuke? doesn't make a lick of sense. if you are going to Nuke an entire city and basically kill everyone, it makes financial ruin kind of a moot point.
He did it so that Wayne would be forced out of Wayne Enterprises, and then when that happened, Bruce would lean on Miranda Tate and do what he could to put her in power of the board, and would also give her access to the fusion generator, which they didn't have.
So that way, the League had access to the Generator, which they could now turn into the Bomb that they wanted to destroy the city.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:33 am to Tiger Ryno
The goal was always to destroy Gotham.
They used increasingly overt strategies as it went on.
The depression engineered by them, which was thwarted by the reaction to the Wayne murders was just the first attempt to get the citizens to destroy it by tearing each other apart.
The attempt with the hulliciagen in the water was the second attempt to the same end.
Nuking it was just the final plan.
It's the only way to be sure after all.
They used increasingly overt strategies as it went on.
The depression engineered by them, which was thwarted by the reaction to the Wayne murders was just the first attempt to get the citizens to destroy it by tearing each other apart.
The attempt with the hulliciagen in the water was the second attempt to the same end.
Nuking it was just the final plan.
It's the only way to be sure after all.
Posted on 7/20/12 at 8:35 am to Siderophore
Wasn't Talia the one calling all the shots behind closed doors? It seemed she's the one who wanted to execute Ra's final plan for Gotham, while Bane was just the engine for the whole operation that got involved primarily due to his love for Talia.
This post was edited on 7/20/12 at 8:36 am
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