re: New Batman v Superman Trailer

Nice picture with no frame of reference.
Here's two 145lb guys with no frame of reference that look ripped but would look like little boys next to Anne Hathaway.




Bale just simply didn't look big to me at any moment, not even when he was in the suit. he's not a midget or anything, he just didn't look physically overpowering at any point in the movie to me. Superman, Wolverine, Captain America, Thor, even Starlord, those are guys that are portrayed by people that look physically intimidating. All of those characters had scenes in their movies where they showed off their muscles, and they looked like what i expect a superhero to look like, and i'm sure we'll see that with Deadpool as well.

To me Christian Bale was no different in terms of being physically intimidating as Clooney and Keaton were, which they weren't. Batman doesn't have superpowers, but is a great combat fighter. I expect my combat fighter type heros to look physically overpowering compared to everyone else on the screen not named Hulk.
The picture you had of Bale was his moment on the screen to show off his body, and he looks like a fat body builder without much definition. I'm not going to get any gayer and post pictures of the people i mentioned before, but all of their moments where they showed off their body do not compare to Bale's.

And to be clear, I like Christian Bale, and he has been the best Batman thus far. i just prefer my big superheroes to be physically intimidating and overpowering on the big screen at all times.

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Parasite, Metallo, and Lobo aren't on Superman's level.

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I think you might be mistaken with Lobo. He has gone toe to toe with Superman on several occasions, and is also immortal.

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I can't disagree with that. Maybe the studio is saying "frick the average movie goer". That's not a very good idea, IMO. There has been talk for years about a Batman vs Superman movie. The fans have wanted one for awhile. But the average movie goer is like "What the frick is this?" Like I said, if it's a good movie, it won't matter. The characters are very well known. It would just go down as a really good movie with a bad title. Which is what I think a lot of people said when the title was released. Maybe they should have just gone with a Batman /Superman title or a Batman and Superman: Dawn of Justice (as in Dawn of the Justice League). The animated movies have done this with some success. It may have been a better idea than trying to sell this Batman vs Superman heavyweight bout. You can still have the fight, just don't sell it as the entire movie.

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I think they were hoping that it would be obvious to the average movie goer that the whole movie isn't going be a battle between the two. Based on the trailers and it being "Dawn of Justise" it should be obvious that the two will team up at the end and most of the conflict won't be actual physical fighting (rather them being at odds against each other) but many people still don't seem to get it.

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I understand what they were doing. But this is NOT the Joker. I've seen nothing from Leto's Joker that would make me think they were taking a big leap from who he is.

Any way you spin it, this is huge deviation from what we've come to know. Either, Lex will be younger than Superman, or Lex will be a weak, tiny little 30 year old man. It's just not what I and many people preferred. It is a much bigger leap than anything I've seen from Leto as Joker, at least in the physical manifestation of the character. I'm not a big fan of the tattoos, but everything else about the Joker is money.

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I was referring more from a psychological standpoint, not physical. But I see what you're saying.

I hear a lot of people complaining about the look of Leto's Joker. And while I'm also not a fan of the tats, I do like the New 52 spin.

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Nice picture with no frame of reference. 

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No frame of reference? Clearly you've never seen the Batman movies because it's from the fricking movie.

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My only complaint, and it's been this from the start, is that Affleck is so well known that, for me at least, it will make it hard for me to believe he's Bats and not Afflek playing Bats. But that's a minor nit. Physically, he's the best fit yet...and they clearly have the movements and ferocity right this time. Super happy!

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I agree with that.

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As for Cavil, I'm less impressed. Going off what you said, he's ripped up...but he's kind of short comparatively at 6'1" and I'm guessing they're fudging that, and they didn't even try to make him appear taller with tricks.

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I think you picked a picture that just was at a bad angle with Lois probably on her tippy toes. He's an entire head length taller than her in every other picture, even when she has heels on.
But yeah it'd be nice if he was more like 6'4"


Chris Evans is only 6'0" but he still looks physically intimidating. And I expect my super hero to be able to do this. It's little things like this in movies that keep reminding me this guy is physically intimidating. There were no Batman Christian Bale moments like that.

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That first part of the trailer looked like it came straight from Arkham City.

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I thought the exact same thing.

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I hear a lot of people complaining about the look of Leto's Joker. And while I'm also not a fan of the tats, I do like the New 52 spin.

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I love what I've seen from Leto's Joker. I wasn't a big fan of the tattoos and still am not, ut when you see the whole thing as a package, I think it's going to be great.

Understand that I am a HUGE DC fan as many on this board will tell you. It doesn't mean that they're above being called out on things. I'm not going to sit here and pat them on the back for everything they do. I will give criticism when merited, IMO. It doesn't mean that I'm throwing this movie to the curb because I'm not a fan of how they are portraying Lex. I can appreciate all of the other aspects of the movie.

I've never been more excited for a movie than I am for this and the JL movies to follow. I thought the action scenes in Man of Steel were awesome and I thought Snyder did a great job with Watchman. For those reasons I have faith in him. I also have faith that Affleck is not going to so something that will jeopardize his career at this point. He got a second chance, redeemed himself, and I don't think he will make the same mistakes. I think he brought on Terio to clean up the dialogue and some of the motivational aspects of the characters. I also think he's bringing on some of his own knowledge and love for the character. Snyder is obviously a huge Batman fan as well.

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6'4" Ben Affleck is more like it to me.

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Damn... I never realized Affleck was that tall.

Drew McWeeny claims that the movie is not testing well

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Drew McWeeny gives Roth Cornet the scoop on what's really happening behind the scenes of Batman v Superman. Spoiler Alert: Warner Bros. is worried.

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