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My respect for Spike Lee

Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:42 pm
Yeah, he is a douche.

Yeah, he is hostile to people of my race.

But he is an amazing talent, that waters himself down in cosmic justice far too often. Nobody can bring urban life to the screen like he does, without making the focus criminal behavior.

Just my 2 cents.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Yeah, he is a douche.



Have met him in person, and can confirm.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:49 pm to
I really dig the way Spike Lee directs, he's got great flourishes and editing in his movies.

25th Hour and Inside Man are two faves of mine.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Inside Man
yes yes
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:06 pm to
I don't think he hates white people or anything. He just doesn't accept warmed over platitudes regarding race. do the right Thing, to this day, is the single greatest film about race relations in this country, and part of that is that the racists in the film are cartoon villains. And he's clear that Mookie is just as prejudiced against the Italians as Pino is against the blacks in the neighborhood.

I mean, how likeable is Buggin' Out anyway? He picks the fight with Clifton. He tries to start a boycott of Sal's. He eggs Radio Raheem on, agitating him until the cops show up. He's just a live wire, attuned to even the slightest irritation. The film also touches the live wire of CLASS, which is even more of a no-no to talk about than race in this country. It's just a great, great film.

But what I like about Lee so much is he didn't get pigeon-holed as the "black director". He made some other race relation films like the sorely underrated Bamboozled, and films about the "black experience" like School Daze, He Got Game, and of course Do the Right Thing.

But he's made excellent genre pictures like Clockers and Inside Man. He made one of the best post-9/11 films in 25th Hour (technically about Ed Norton going to jail, but really about post-9/11 NYC).

Spike Lee can make a f'n movie. Even his failures are at least interesting. He's greatest virtue is that he doesn't ever play it safe. Lee goes for the jugular in all of his films.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:09 pm to
I've watched Entourage. All directors are douches.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:13 pm to
The film Malcolm x is such a great example of what an overrated "talent" he is

Couldn't ask for a better subject matter. It was probably one of the most poorly edited movies I've ever seen. The casting was poor and the emotions were cheaply had. Malcolm x, piece of shite or hero, was a complex and interesting guy who was a big part of the civil rights movement.

How can you frick that up? But of course

Civil right...check
Black lead...check
Black director...check

OMG IT WAS SOOOOO AMAZING.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:19 pm to
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I don't think he hates white people or anything.
Whoa now, I never said hate. I said hostile.

And School Daze is a shitty movie that does little other than introduce the intra-black social structure. . .which I assume was the point of the film.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7299 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:21 pm to
Guy made several movies that are stone classics or game-changers. (Do the Right Thing, Malcolm X, 25th Hour, Jungle Fever, She's Gotta Have It) Also a few movies that are entertaining as hell (Summer of Sam, The Original Kings of Comedy)
Plus, he helped create the indie movie business and paved the way for generations of black filmmakers.
On top of that, as a side gig to bring in cash, he made some iconic commercials
He gets a lifetime pass.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:34 pm to
School Da is a great look at black middle class life, and he again dips into the well of class, and in his film about two frats competing with each other, he includes moments to show the townies' resentment of the privileged college kids. It's an uneven film, and not his best, but it's quite interesting. Like I said, even his failures are at least worth a watch.
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
6214 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:42 pm to
Love Bamboozled, but hate the ending.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 2:54 pm to
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I mean, how likeable is Buggin' Out anyway? He picks the fight with Clifton. He tries to start a boycott of Sal's. He eggs Radio Raheem on, agitating him until the cops show up. He's just a live wire, attuned to even the slightest irritation.
Lets talk about how great of an actor Giancarlo Esposito really is. He played the Buggin' Out role really well. His role as Gus in BB shows his range.

quote:

But he's made excellent genre pictures like Clockers and Inside Man. He made one of the best post-9/11 films in 25th Hour (technically about Ed Norton going to jail, but really about post-9/11 NYC).

Spike Lee can make a f'n movie. Even his failures are at least interesting. He's greatest virtue is that he doesn't ever play it safe. Lee goes for the jugular in all of his films.


Dude is smart is frick. Out of all his movies, I think only about 4 didn't make a profit.
Posted by Das Jackal
Da Bayou
Member since Sep 2011
2580 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 3:01 pm to
Can't stand the dude...
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39421 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 3:03 pm to
Racist POS
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124258 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 3:04 pm to
Respect and spike lee don't belong in the same sentence
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

don't think he hates white people or anything
he does, but that's not why his movies suck.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

My respect for Spike Lee
does not exist
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted by JohnnyBgood
South Louisiana
Member since May 2010
4281 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 3:20 pm to
Has no one ever seen Miracle at St Anna? That was the biggest piece of shite I have ever seen on film.

frick him just for that. He loses all other credibility.
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 3:28 pm to
I don't care how douchey he is in real life, Do The Right Thing will always be a masterpiece
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47589 posts
Posted on 9/25/15 at 3:46 pm to
Personally, I enjoyed his shoe commercials:

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