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re: Man of Steel - upon further review...
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:22 pm to AngryBeavers
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:22 pm to AngryBeavers
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Yeah the action at the end was WAY to over the top.
Too much action in a comic book movie rabble rabble!!
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:22 pm to ColaTiger
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Critics don't know anything even though they have probably seen 100x more movies than you and have actual educational experience in critical analysis.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:24 pm to Sentrius
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It's the biggest factor why the critics gave this a low rating.
It may have been a shock for Superman fanboys but the general public pretty much expected him to kill Zod. I don't think critics panned it because of this.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:27 pm to udtiger
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this puts the whole thing in perspective and shows why MOS' RT rating is complete bullshite.
Ah numerical ratings, while they COULD be useful they are generally full of crap because people have no idea why they are rating something, or what it should mean.
MoS is probably rated about right, it's a good movie, not great. Slightly above average.
The problem is that most of these films have inflated ratings due to terrible ideas of what a rating should mean.
If 50% was an actually Average film, MoS is about right, most of the films on that list should be around 50%. Therefore, it's not about MoS being underrated, most criticisms were on point for a change, but other ratings being far too high.
Edit: That version of Hulk should be significantly higher. Ang Lee's vision, although slightly flawed, was unique. Revenge of the Sith is about right.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:28 pm to Sentrius
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Actually this is the biggest change and the backbone of the departure from the donner universe. There's a lot of controversy around this and It's the biggest factor why the critics gave this a low rating. Superman doesn't kill, he finds every possible way he can to save the lives of everybody, good or evil. It finalized the notion that this is a different Superman.
What happened to Zod and his cronies in Superman 2?
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:32 pm to Dr RC
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This is one movie where the critics knew that Man of Steel was going to be quite different from the Donner universe but still couldn't quite handle the departure from the Donner films into something so completely different that MoS was. The critics were expecting something at least similar to the Donner films and Snyder/Nolan never intended to give them that. Hence the low rating.
just b/c you keep repeating a bullshite theory doesn't make it true
If you actually read the "rotten" reviews for this movie, the vast majority of them complain about the departure from the Donnerverse ("absence" of humor/levity, "stiffness" of Cavill's Clark versus Reeve, etc.).
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:37 pm to Tactical1
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With the exception of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones, all of those films are better than Man of Steel.
No they were not. Superman Returns having a higher rating is hysterical. No one likes that movie.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:53 pm to RonBurgundy
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No they were not. Superman Returns having a higher rating is hysterical. No one likes that movie.
Man of Steel is the bizarro version of Superman Returns. There's some stuff I like about it, like Superman saving the plane, but it fails for the most part. It just seems to me that Snyder tried to make the exact opposite film and shot his wad with it. There is no reason that we should have had that level of destruction in the first film and leave it largely unaddressed.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:56 pm to udtiger
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"stiffness" of Cavill's Clark versus Reeve,
what the frick? you cant get stiffer than reeve
Posted on 8/22/13 at 5:12 pm to OMLandshark
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It just seems to me that Snyder tried to make the exact opposite film and shot his wad with it.
This is pretty much what happened.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 5:20 pm to RonBurgundy
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Superman Returns having a higher rating is hysterical. No one likes that movie.
Evidently more people like it than Man of Steel.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 5:35 pm to udtiger
it was a good movie but not what I expected. I wanted superman addressing real life problems like poverty, war, natural disasters.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 5:45 pm to Tactical1
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Evidently more people like it than Man of Steel
No they don't
Posted on 8/22/13 at 5:46 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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No they don't
Sure guy, sure.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 5:49 pm to Tactical1
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With the exception of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones, all of those films are better than Man of Steel.
Spiderman 3?
Posted on 8/22/13 at 5:50 pm to Sentrius
I expected it to be a departure from the Donner films. You could tell just from the costume. I expected a darker, more complex Superman and that's what they gave us. That wasn't the problem. The problem with this movie is that it's a big, loud, stupid mess.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 5:55 pm to TK421
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Spiderman 3
As much as it pains to say it, yeah, it is.
I like to throw Spiderman 3 and X Men The Last Stand as the bar in which you can go no lower before you start to get bad. (As far as Comic Book films go) These two films are bad films of their franchises, but are not generally, "bad" films.
Man of Steel, at times felt slightly better than a Transformers film. Which is....... Not very good.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:03 pm to Tactical1
The biggest disappointment was how they portrayed Lois.
She tracks the MoS down with basically no clues, learns his identity before they ever know each other, and she took out more Kryptonians than Superman did. That makes the entire movie pretty much unwatchable
She tracks the MoS down with basically no clues, learns his identity before they ever know each other, and she took out more Kryptonians than Superman did. That makes the entire movie pretty much unwatchable
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:04 pm to Tactical1
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Evidently more people like it than Man of Steel.
Box office totals world-wide:
MoS-$649.3 million
Superman Returns-$391.1 million
Safe to say more people like Man of Steel
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:12 pm to RonBurgundy
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Box office totals world-wide:
MoS-$649.3 million
Superman Returns-$391.1 million
This just makes it safe to say more people saw Man of Steel. 3D is a big factor as well on the box office as well as Man of Steel appearing in 200 more theaters than Superman Returns.
Average Ticket Price for a film now 8.16
Average Ticket Price for a film in 2006 6.55
Not a lot of 3D films in 2006.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 6:15 pm
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