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re: Mad Men S7 E13 "The Milk & Honey Route"
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:02 am to LSU 318 LSU
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:02 am to LSU 318 LSU
Pete, Roger, Don and Peggy. 4 of some of the greatest characters ever on TV.
Love Pete's vicious loyalty. Despite his seeming selfishness and immaturity, he is loyal to the end. Much like Don and also Roger.
I'm in the boat where I don't think there is enough closure. I think there needs to be 2 more episodes minimum.
Going to be hard to fit Pete, Don, Henry, the kids all in one episode. And that isn't even factoring in Peggy, Joan and Roger. We shall see. Def. Makes me sad.
Love Pete's vicious loyalty. Despite his seeming selfishness and immaturity, he is loyal to the end. Much like Don and also Roger.
I'm in the boat where I don't think there is enough closure. I think there needs to be 2 more episodes minimum.
Going to be hard to fit Pete, Don, Henry, the kids all in one episode. And that isn't even factoring in Peggy, Joan and Roger. We shall see. Def. Makes me sad.
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:26 am to StringedInstruments
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They knew SCP from the inside out somehow. I'm guessing through Duck
I'm hoping that Duck, in a drunken stupor, staggers into an open elevator shaft on the 28th floor of the McCann building. Would be a suitably fitting end for such a vile character.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:58 am to Godfather1
Is Mark Moses (Duck) more despicable here or on Homeland? Both suck
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:00 pm to tccdc
Haven't seen him in Homeland. I know that when he was much younger, he was that really shitty Lieutenant in "Platoon".
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:29 pm to LSU 318 LSU
quote:While I respect this prediction. I think it's too idealistic.
I can see Don shedding his "Don Draper" self and going back to Dick Whittman. Buying a farm and having the kids come live with him. I think the last minutes of the episode shows Dick Whittman on the ranch, drinking an old fashion, wearing a solid white t-shirt with aviator glasses, and he looking at a billboard of one of his former clients...
Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:01 pm to STLhog
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And that isn't even factoring in Peggy, Joan and Roger. We shall see. Def. Makes me sad.
I see Joan's story line at a close. McCann chewed her up and spit her out. I think they closed out Pete's this last episode as well. And if the last image we have of Peggy walking in McCann like the boss she is, I am all for it. That was iconic. I am not sure where they go with Roger. I think he has made his bed and hes put out to pasture with no power at McCann.
I see the final episode as tge shedding of Don Draper altogether and his resorting back to Dick. Him finally uttering that he killed his CO in Korea the last straw. He ends up posting up in Cali at Anna's old place.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:07 pm to JBeam
quote:Everyone seems to forget that Matthew Weiner wrote on the Sopranos, specifically the final season.
I can see Don shedding his "Don Draper" self and going back to Dick Whittman. Buying a farm and having the kids come live with him. I think the last minutes of the episode shows Dick Whittman on the ranch, drinking an old fashion, wearing a solid white t-shirt with aviator glasses, and he looking at a billboard of one of his former clients...
While I respect this prediction. I think it's too idealistic.
Be prepared for that. He doesn't necessarily wrap up things in a nice and tidy bow for the viewers. I think some things will be wrapped up to a degree, but I think we will also be left with questions.
This season has been wrapping up "Don Draper" to a degree. He's been losing everything that made him "Don Draper" one by one. And I think as he has been losing those, he has been morphing into what he really wanted to be the whole time. Shedding the caddy at the end and hopefully saving that kid from the mistakes he made was the final piece of Don Draper that he was left to shed and you finally saw him happy on that bench.
No matter what happens in the finale, I think that it will end with Don Draper/Dick Whitman moving out to the west coast and beginning a life out there where he's always wanted to be. But, Weiner is a tricky bitch so it could go anywhere
Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:07 pm to STLhog
Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:12 pm to vuvuzela
quote:Damn, nice reset man. I'm missing this show already
Rewatching this after this episode is..... misty
Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:54 pm to Dr. 3
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I see Joan's story line at a close. McCann chewed her up and spit her out.
I loved the way Roger just kind of threw up his hands and said "I can't help you with this one, Red."
I mean, you kind of got the sense that things were over between them when Roger didn't lift a finger to stop her from whoring herself out to the Jaguar dealer rep. But this was really final.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:33 pm to Godfather1
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I mean, you kind of got the sense that things were over between them when Roger didn't lift a finger to stop her from whoring herself out to the Jaguar dealer rep. But this was really final.
Well when they discussed the 50k offer initially, he said he would not stand in the way but hes would not pay for it.
That episode is brilliant. Pete played both sides against the middle and after she gives the 5% non negotiable term he smugly tells Don "it was her idea"
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:46 pm to Dr. 3
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Well when they discussed the 50k offer initially, he said he would not stand in the way but hes would not pay for it.
And there's the thing: for someone who once claimed to love her (the mother of his son) as much as he did, he was spectacularly cavalier about that whole deal. If there was still any feeling there, he would've put his foot down and vetoed it. Hell, even Draper did that much and he was never even involved with her.
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That episode is brilliant. Pete played both sides against the middle and after she gives the 5% non negotiable term he smugly tells Don "it was her idea"
Yeah, Pete at his sleaziest, smarmiest best.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 5/14/15 at 4:03 pm to Godfather1
Rewatching the earlier seasons of this show makes me realize how brilliant it was in the beginning. It's still good, but it lost some magic at some point.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 4:56 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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Rewatching the earlier seasons of this show makes me realize how brilliant it was in the beginning. It's still good, but it lost some magic at some point.
Hard to keep it going.
You could say that about large portions of the Sopranos. Hell even GoT is getting to that point.
Hard to beat Breaking Bad on something this lengthy, and I think BB got a lot better as it went on. But like you said, Mad Men was just so damn good from the get go.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:00 pm to STLhog
I dont know how yall can say that.
I think 7B has been nothing short of phenomenal.
Time and Life and Lost Horizon have been as good as any episodes they put out.
I think 7B has been nothing short of phenomenal.
Time and Life and Lost Horizon have been as good as any episodes they put out.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:21 pm to lsuwontonwrap
You know, one of my favorite parts of the show was the evolution of the Bert Cooper character. At the beginning, you got the sense that, yeah, technically he was the boss, but he was just kind of there as the eccentric old grandfatherly type in the background for comic relief. But by the time his story arc had played out, you understood how he had lasted 46 years in the business. He was one shrewd old bastard. And Robert Morse was really brilliant in the role.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:32 pm to Godfather1
One of my favorite scenes is when they are deciding to let Don back in the company and as they always do Jim had Ted's proxy and Roger had Petes.
Jim goes off about how creative is causing all these headaches with their "hi-jinx". Burt shoots back at him "are you still speaking for Ted?".
I thought that was just brilliant. And how he always let Don read between the lines that he had the fricking drop on him any time Don wanted to swing his dick around the agency.
Jim goes off about how creative is causing all these headaches with their "hi-jinx". Burt shoots back at him "are you still speaking for Ted?".
I thought that was just brilliant. And how he always let Don read between the lines that he had the fricking drop on him any time Don wanted to swing his dick around the agency.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:37 pm to htownjeep
FYI the finale is only 1 hour and 15 mins.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:39 pm to Dr. 3
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I thought that was just brilliant. And how he always let Don read between the lines that he had the fricking drop on him any time Don wanted to swing his dick around the agency.
Just another example of how shrewd the guy was. When Pete revealed Don's secret to him, he dismissed it...yet neatly tucked it into his back pocket for future reference if necessary. As evidenced by the way he used it to his advantage in strongarming Draper into signing a contract.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 5:40 pm
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