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re: LOST "The Package" S6.E10 (Sun & Jin-centric)

Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by LSU2NO
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:09 pm to
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the whole series




damn


O. M. G. What a downer. I refuse to hit a spoiler button, or even come close to a spoiler site.
Posted by LSU2NO
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:13 pm to
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speaking of, did douchebag TigerRyno get banned for his shennanigans in the lost threads?


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he did

Why are you sad that TigerRyno got banned? You actual liked his BS? He was just parrotting what he read off of LOST sites and he didn't have an original thought(well, maybe one or two). He did not bring anything to the discussion, so I do not miss him.
This post was edited on 3/30/10 at 3:19 pm
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 3:43 pm to
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Why are you sad that TigerRyno got banned?


Sad? WTF are you talking about?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:29 pm to
I think my role in TigerRyno's bannage is my biggest contribution to Lost threads so far.

from help board

LSU2NO started the ball rolling, but I gave strong support.
Posted by coachLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:32 pm to
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Why are you sad that TigerRyno got banned?


when did he say that?
Posted by The Boob
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:33 pm to
Can the package be the money that Sun planted on the flight?
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:46 pm to
I know this was probably discussed in the other thread, but Richard's wife (name now escapes me) - who was she really both times:

1. The first time - was it the Black smoke? If so, they made it look like MIB was in two places at once because you could hear the black smoke. If it was actually her ghost, how could the black smoke then kill her?

2. The second time - we can assume it was really her as we have seen Hurley communicate with the dfead, right? Based on that, I don't see how anyone still thinks Jacob is bad. She clearly seemed to be on his side in her communication to Richard via Hurley.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:52 pm to
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1. The first time - was it the Black smoke? If so, they made it look like MIB was in two places at once because you could hear the black smoke. If it was actually her ghost, how could the black smoke then kill her?
I say it was MIB. The smoke can do anything it wants to on the island IMO and even pretend to kill a hallucination. He was using her to manipulate him just like he's done in the past with people he's "scanned".

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2. The second time - we can assume it was really her as we have seen Hurley communicate with the dfead, right? Based on that, I don't see how anyone still thinks Jacob is bad. She clearly seemed to be on his side in her communication to Richard via Hurley.
It was her IMO precisely because she told Richard not to let him off the island.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:53 pm to
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1. The first time - was it the Black smoke? If so, they made it look like MIB was in two places at once because you could hear the black smoke. If it was actually her ghost, how could the black smoke then kill her?



Its been confirmed that the Black Smoke can split in human form in "The Cost of Living", so I assume it was him manifesting himself into Isabella and the Black Smoke.

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2. The second time - we can assume it was really her as we have seen Hurley communicate with the dfead, right? Based on that, I don't see how anyone still thinks Jacob is bad. She clearly seemed to be on his side in her communication to Richard via Hurley.


Smokie can only turn into Locke and the Smoke now, so yeah it had to have been her.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 4:57 pm to
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1. The first time - was it the Black smoke? If so, they made it look like MIB was in two places at once because you could hear the black smoke. If it was actually her ghost, how could the black smoke then kill her?


Richard is present both times. He can see her the first time but not the second which seems to mean that it is two different incarnations of Isabella. The only people on the island (that we know of) at the time of the first incarnation is Jacob, MIB and Richard. We know Richards isn't Isabella, so he's out. We also know that, according to the rules, MIB and Jacob can't kill each other, so that that excludes the possibility of Isabella being a form of Jacob (unless they are working together . . mind blowing). This means that the only possibility left (according to what we know) is that Isabella is a conjecture of MIB.

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2. The second time - we can assume it was really her as we have seen Hurley communicate with the dfead, right?


That is what the writers want us to assume. But is it really out of the realm of possibility that the conjecture seen by Hurley was simply a form of MIB or Jacob? I'll hold off on this for now.

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Based on that, I don't see how anyone still thinks Jacob is bad. She clearly seemed to be on his side in her communication to Richard via Hurley.


This I don't get. She basically told him to let her go and move on. I don't remember telling him anything about helping Jacob or being aligned with Jacob. Remember, Richard was trying to kill himself in the episode before.
This post was edited on 3/30/10 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:01 pm to
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I don't remember telling him anything about helping Jacob or being aligned with Jacob. Remember, Richard was trying to kill himself in the episode before.


Ok, this was wrong. She did tell him to not let MIB off the island.

Is it possible that this simply Jacob manipulating Richard via Hurley?

We know that someone else (other than MIB) is taking the form of people on the island thanks to the little kid from the beginning of the season.




Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:20 pm to
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That is what the writers want us to assume. But is it really out of the realm of possibility that the conjecture seen by Hurley was simply a form of MIB or Jacob? I'll hold off on this for now.


Well, we did see MIB off in the distance and he seemed a bit pissed about their conversation. Also, MIB cannot change form now. I think the 2nd Isabella is definitely not MIB, otherwise we would have to believe that MIB has conned Hurley into doing his bidding.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
48296 posts
Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:26 pm to
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Well, we did see MIB off in the distance and he seemed a bit pissed about their conversation. Also, MIB cannot change form now. I think the 2nd Isabella is definitely not MIB, otherwise we would have to believe that MIB has conned Hurley into doing his bidding.


I'm starting lean towards Jacob
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:28 pm to
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Is it possible that this simply Jacob manipulating Richard via Hurley?


I have sort of wondered if all of Hurley's visions of the dead were really Jacob; Charlie, Ana Lucia, etc.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
48296 posts
Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:33 pm to
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I have sort of wondered if all of Hurley's visions of the dead were really Jacob; Charlie, Ana Lucia, etc.


If Jacob is truly manipulating everyone, then it works perfectly. Everyone loves Hurley. He is the one character that no other character has confronted. Hurley may stand to be the best to convince others to Jacob's bidding.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:34 pm to
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I'm starting lean towards Jacob


So I guess that Jacob doesn't mind rubbing up on other guys as long as it furthers his plans

I think the second Isabella must be who she claims to be. The viewers get all emotional over Richard and Isabella briefly uniting only to find out that it was actually Jacob? I don't think so.
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:44 pm to
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I think my role in TigerRyno's bannage is my biggest contribution to Lost threads so far.

from help board

LSU2NO started the ball rolling, but I gave strong support.


They seemed to love my quote.
Posted by nosaj56
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:48 pm to
did anyone else not like last week's episode? I was

hopefully tonight is better
Posted by joshnorris14
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:51 pm to
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did anyone else not like last week's episode? I was

hopefully tonight is better



Someone's trollin
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 3/30/10 at 5:53 pm to
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did anyone else not like last week's episode?


The mentally ill
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