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re: LOST "The Package" S6.E10 (Sun & Jin-centric)

Posted on 4/2/10 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by The Boob
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Posted on 4/2/10 at 3:10 pm to
No clue. I've been trying to think of things that all 5 known remaining candidates have in common that Kate doesn't.

What gets me is that Sayid is still a candidate...
Posted by STLSU
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Posted on 4/2/10 at 3:18 pm to
MIB, FLocke said Kate's been crossed off, but do we know that for sure?
Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 4/2/10 at 3:24 pm to
the writers said they meant for a cave scene to show kate crossed off..

why is it so hard to believe MIB will tell the truth sometimes... he isnt gonna lie about everything.

the writers aren't gonna have him say all kinds of things only to go back and say "hah, we tricked you". it would be bad writing
Posted by STLSU
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Posted on 4/2/10 at 4:26 pm to
Kate and Sawyer haven't died yet though. So they are still free. Sayid (by drowning) and Claire (barracks explosion by Keamy's men) died and were claimed and brought back to life in a zombie fashion by MIB.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 1:15 pm to
Just thought of something, and it makes more sense why Ben himself killed Locke instead of letting Locke hang himself: If he had tried to hang himself, then Locke couldn't have killed himself since he was a candidate and touched by Jacob. Ben may have known that Locke was not able to kill himself, so he literally had to talk him down and kill Locke himself.
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 2:15 pm to
But to me that seemed like Ben being jealous of Locke's position more than him being a knowing part of a bigger design. I don't think Ben knew he had to kill him. Just my impression of the scene and subsequent scenes, especially when FLocke was walking around on the beach after the plane crash. Ben was genuinely shocked to see him. He thought he had gotten rid of him for good.

I will say that it would have been cool if Locke has tried to hang himself and kept failing, much like the dynamite lighting of Alpert. That would have been a nice touch.
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:08 pm to
Watched the episode last night. Nice episode. Provided some valuable information. Jin's sideflash meshing with Sayid's made the episode for me. I didn't really care about the sideflash until that point.

It'll be interesting to see Kate and Sawyer's sideflashes mesh since he ran into her at the end of his.
Posted by STLSU
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 3:58 pm to
That's true, landshark. Michael couldn't kill himself off island either. Nice pickup.

Also, I think that Ellie kind of knew this was about to happen. She knew about the guy in the red shoes in Season 3 ep Flashes before my eyes about Des breaking up with Pen. But Ben still needed to know how to find her since they weren't working together on that. Elie (I call her mother time) may have told Widmore, or even coordinated with him on getting the 6 back to the island (remember how close they are, being Farraday's parents and working on the island together before Charles was banished from it).

Also, Ben knew he would be the leader of the Others with Locke gone, but I think you nailed the real reason, or at least the main one.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

But to me that seemed like Ben being jealous of Locke's position more than him being a knowing part of a bigger design. I don't think Ben knew he had to kill him. Just my impression of the scene and subsequent scenes, especially when FLocke was walking around on the beach after the plane crash. Ben was genuinely shocked to see him. He thought he had gotten rid of him for good.


I know Ben didn't know his part to play in the big design, but he just knew Locke couldn't kill himself.
Posted by vorenus23
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 4:13 pm to
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I know Ben didn't know his part to play in the big design, but he just knew Locke couldn't kill himself.


Ben didn't know that.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

Ben didn't know that.



Ben certainly knew it about Michael and probably Richard, so him assuming that Locke couldn't kill himself either is fairly likely, especially since he was thought to be very special. There are rules to killing in LOST that we currently aren't fully aware of, but Ben seems to be.
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 4:20 pm
Posted by vorenus23
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

so him assuming that Locke couldn't kill himself either is fairly likely


it's an interesting theory/assumption; I just don't buy it.

Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/3/10 at 5:16 pm to
i know who he is, but how did "FLOCKE" get that name?
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 6:47 pm to
"Fake/False" Locke is what I've always assumed.
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 4/5/10 at 7:56 pm to
In the Lighthouse, Hurley turned the wheel intending for it to hit 108 degrees (it was on his arm, instructions from Jacob).
This post was edited on 4/5/10 at 8:19 pm
Posted by coachLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/5/10 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

In the Lighthouse, Benjy turned the wheel intending for it to hit 108 degrees (it was on his arm).



is this just a random tid bit?
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 4/5/10 at 9:56 pm to
108 came back to the island, like I said before.
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