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re: Lone Survivor, 3 Options Question

Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:45 am to
Posted by Tiger inTampa
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:45 am to
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4 guys vs 200 insurgents? Come on...


Let me preface this by saying I did not read the book so I can not quote details chapter and verse. My understanding was that the story was pared down for "movie making" purposes to 4 guys. The team was bigger and some guys were rolled into to 1 character. The real footage of those lost in the fight at the end certainly lead me to believe that was the case. As a movie I found it well done, well acted, and entertaining. For those looking to tear apart the accuracy...It's a movie BASED ON ACTUAL EVENTS not a documentary.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:51 am to
No it was four guys in the book as well. The pictures of the SEALs at the end were from those that died during operation Redwing trying to extract the four man team
Posted by Tiger inTampa
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2009
2171 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:09 am to
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No it was four guys in the book as well. The pictures of the SEALs at the end were from those that died during operation Redwing


Thank you for the clarification.
Posted by NWHoustonTiger
Cypress, TX
Member since Sep 2010
656 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:42 am to
Its amazing how bad-asses there are on the internet and in this thread.
Posted by CPT Tiger
My own personal Hell
Member since Oct 2009
1321 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:54 am to
I am not completely familiar with the actual events but one of the problems you run into if you hold them while you move up the hill and contact higher is at what point does someone come looking for them.
Also as non combatants they are afforded certain rights that detaining them would violate. These sort of moral and ethical decisions confront our soldiers on a regular bases overseas. It is highly likely that they would have received very lenient punishment as multiple precedents had already been set.
Posted by RaginCajun87
Member since Jul 2013
353 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Or why not have two guys watch them while the other two get to higher ground to establish coms?


You can youtube Marcus Lutrell's account of why they didn't do this. He said they could have done that but they couldn't have stopped the goats from following the trail that led back to the village. Once the goats get back to the village without their Sheppard's the village people (militia) go up to find them. It was a lose-lose situation.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43537 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:38 pm to
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You can youtube Marcus Lutrell's account of why they didn't do this. He said they could have done that but they couldn't have stopped the goats from following the trail that led back to the village. Once the goats get back to the village without their Sheppard's the village people (militia) go up to find them. It was a lose-lose situation.


goats arent going to march back down to the village. they are going to stop and eat everything along the way.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68460 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:11 pm to
This is tigerdroppings baw. The average male user wears more ribbons and medals than that phony sgm. Davis
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9298 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:21 pm to
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I think the first of it is exaggerated to fairy tale levels. 4 guys vs 200 insurgents? Come on...



Come on what? 3/4 died and the fourth would've easily died if not for being incredibly lucky. Is 200 enemy combatants in one place what you find unbelievable?
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29038 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 5:20 pm to
Some of you should really do some research, read the book, learn a little more about some of the warriors that we lost.

Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
11392 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:56 pm to
I don't care what happened.........those 4 men went thru hell that day and 3 of them lost their lives in the process.........not to mention the chopper that was shot down trying to extract them.

Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:38 pm to
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No it was four guys in the book as well. The pictures of the SEALs at the end were from those that died during operation Redwing trying to extract the four man team





The whole operation, to include the insertion of the seals, was operation redwing. The insertion of the seals was a bad idea in the first place, the marine BN fought like hell to prevent it.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:41 pm to
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Come on what? 3/4 died and the fourth would've easily died if not for being incredibly lucky. Is 200 enemy combatants in one place what you find unbelievable?


There is a rule in Afghanistan when it comes to the enemy, the rule is whenever there is a report of how many enemy is in the area, you divide that number by 10. There was not 80-200 enemy combatants in that particular wasteland.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:47 pm to
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You can youtube Marcus Lutrell's account of why they didn't do this. He said they could have done that but they couldn't have stopped the goats from following the trail that led back to the village. Once the goats get back to the village without their Sheppard's the village people (militia) go up to find them. It was a lose-lose situation.



Unfortunately, it was a lose-lose situation the moment they infilled. That team would've caught hell regardless. That account of the dilemma that may have or may not have happened, was not the sole reason of the tragedy. And to put that on Murphy is down right shameful.
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