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re: 'Johnny Carson: King of Late Night' takes an in-depth look: 5/14
Posted on 5/14/12 at 8:34 pm to FairhopeTider
Posted on 5/14/12 at 8:34 pm to FairhopeTider
Forgot it started at 8, not 9. How was the first 30 min?
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Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:20 pm to swamie
Drew Carey was balling trying to recall his time on the show.
Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:23 pm to FairhopeTider
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You're out of your effing mind if you think that happened.
Carson's ratings were beginning to fall a bit and the Tonight Show was showing it's age. Leno had offers to go to other networks and his agent used that leverage to get NBC to expedite Johnny's retirement. I thought everyone knew that.
Carson's rating were slipping. But this Leno mystique is bullshite. Had he wanted to, Carson could have stayed until he died on the set. NBC would never have the balls to axe him.
Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:34 pm to dr smartass phd
Show kicks arse 
Unfortunately I missed out on Carson but this doc is helping me understand the man the legend.
Unfortunately I missed out on Carson but this doc is helping me understand the man the legend.
Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:56 pm to dr smartass phd
Like a Boss. 
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:04 pm to dr smartass phd
What a great show.
For those of you who didn't grow up with watching Johnny Carson, you really missed something special.
For those of you who didn't grow up with watching Johnny Carson, you really missed something special.
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:07 pm to FairhopeTider
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For those of you who didn't grow up with watching Johnny Carson, you really missed something special
This. I remember begging to stay up to watch. There'll never be another as good.
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:09 pm to VOR
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Carson's rating were slipping. But this Leno mystique is bullshite. Had he wanted to, Carson could have stayed until he died on the set. NBC would never have the balls to axe him.
Leno (or his manager) leaked to the press that NBC wanted to move Johnny out and replace him with Leno. That kind of shite probably had something to do with Johnny getting tired of the show. Any way you look at it, Leno is an arse.
Thanks to the OP for this thread reminder.
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:12 pm to FairhopeTider
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For those of you who didn't grow up with watching Johnny Carson, you really missed something special.
Yes they did.
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:23 pm to Alahunter
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This. I remember begging to stay up to watch. There'll never be another as good.
I was the same way. Everyone else are just imitators.
Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:43 pm to dr smartass phd
I grew up in a pretty rural area as a kid. When I was in college back in the seventies I worked for an 81 year old Jewish man from New York. We talked nearly every day about who was on with Carson and what was said the night before. I learned a great deal about being a good salesman from him and really loved him for how he enjoyed mentoring. I always thought him staying up watching Caron was such a cool thing for an old guy to do.
Posted on 5/14/12 at 11:24 pm to chinese58
If anyone missed this, it replays in 30 min...its fantastic.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 8:36 am to FairhopeTider
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For those of you who didn't grow up with watching Johnny Carson, you really missed something special
Amen
Posted on 5/15/12 at 9:07 am to LSUFanNTX
I got to watch the firs thour, I DVRd the second hour to watch later.
Forgot how much I had grown up with him. Some of the funniest things I remember on TV as a kid was on Carson.
Forgot how much I had grown up with him. Some of the funniest things I remember on TV as a kid was on Carson.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 9:20 am to alajones
I'm watching this now on the PBS site and it's bringing back such great memories. I just now had to pause to laugh, though--just as funny as it ever was!
"You were dangling a participle..."
Without missing a beat, "I'll wear a long coat and no one will notice!"
ETA: had to pause it again for the hatchet thrower. Johnny's expressions were priceless, then, "I didn't even know you were Jewish!"
"You were dangling a participle..."
Without missing a beat, "I'll wear a long coat and no one will notice!"
ETA: had to pause it again for the hatchet thrower. Johnny's expressions were priceless, then, "I didn't even know you were Jewish!"
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 10:00 am
Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:36 pm to Shreveporter
I stayed up until two watching the replay. I had the DVR recording but didn't want to stop watching it.
The way he got pissed and just quit on them made me mad. Not at him but at his bosses. TV executives must be very much like the way movies portray them (as A-holes). I guess most new "suits" in any job situation are wanting to make changes or stir things up just to give the appearance of working. I would have loved a few more years of him.
His divorce was so freaking public. The coverage of that was like O.J. and Michael Jackson sans the people standing in the streets. Now anyone in the public eye gets that treatment but it was pretty outrageous for back then. Him making jokes about endeared him to many.
He really did make so many of today's comedy stars. They know it and readily acknowledged it. I remembered that night that Drew Carey was on there. I was laughing my arse off just like Johnny.
I wanted Letterman to replace him. I related to his silliness and spontaneity more than Leno's joke telling. I really never gave Leno a chance. Never watched his show at all.
Haven't watched any of those shows in the probably the last 15 years. Too many other things to watch with cable in every room.
The way he got pissed and just quit on them made me mad. Not at him but at his bosses. TV executives must be very much like the way movies portray them (as A-holes). I guess most new "suits" in any job situation are wanting to make changes or stir things up just to give the appearance of working. I would have loved a few more years of him.
His divorce was so freaking public. The coverage of that was like O.J. and Michael Jackson sans the people standing in the streets. Now anyone in the public eye gets that treatment but it was pretty outrageous for back then. Him making jokes about endeared him to many.
He really did make so many of today's comedy stars. They know it and readily acknowledged it. I remembered that night that Drew Carey was on there. I was laughing my arse off just like Johnny.
I wanted Letterman to replace him. I related to his silliness and spontaneity more than Leno's joke telling. I really never gave Leno a chance. Never watched his show at all.
Haven't watched any of those shows in the probably the last 15 years. Too many other things to watch with cable in every room.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:56 pm to chinese58
Posted on 5/15/12 at 4:04 pm to dr smartass phd
The great thing about the Tonight Show back then was that Carson was a bigger celeb than his guests so he could get away with so much more. Johnny was the only game in town. Today, late night hosts are a dime a dozen so it's hard to really grasp how big of a staple Johnny was.
He really was a national father figure and that is what made his retirement so sad. It was bigger than Bob Barker, Regis, Larry King, Brokaw, etc. Its really hard to explain how big of a deal his retirement was. The guy was in your home every night and was arguably the biggest comedian in the country....then he just disappeared. Letterman described it best by saying that it was like watching a family member die when Johnny retired. It's shocking (and sad) to think that he was around for over a decade before he passed away and didn't conduct a single interview. His last appearance was in 1994.
It was very odd watching the first Tonight Show with Leno. The producers and Leno made a decision to barely acknowledge Carson. It was like Johnny never existed.
He really was a national father figure and that is what made his retirement so sad. It was bigger than Bob Barker, Regis, Larry King, Brokaw, etc. Its really hard to explain how big of a deal his retirement was. The guy was in your home every night and was arguably the biggest comedian in the country....then he just disappeared. Letterman described it best by saying that it was like watching a family member die when Johnny retired. It's shocking (and sad) to think that he was around for over a decade before he passed away and didn't conduct a single interview. His last appearance was in 1994.
It was very odd watching the first Tonight Show with Leno. The producers and Leno made a decision to barely acknowledge Carson. It was like Johnny never existed.
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 5/15/12 at 4:19 pm to FairhopeTider
I got to watching Tonight show clips last night and that led to watching the Dean Martin Roast's. All those memories came flooding back. My 30th HS reunion is this year and I been reminiscing with old friends and we came to the conclusion that growing up in that era was fricking awsome and wouldn't trade it for the world.
Posted on 5/15/12 at 5:24 pm to chinese58
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He really did make so many of today's comedy stars. They know it and readily acknowledged it.
I remember seeing Eddie Murphy, Roseanne Barr(Arnold), Ellen Degeneress, Drew Carey, Jerry Seinfeld, Steven Wright, Louie Anderson, Sam Kinison, and George Wallace all make their comedy debuts on the Tonight Show.
I'm pretty sure that Johnny called most if not all of them over to sit on the couch after the performance. If Johnny called you over to sit on the couch, you got THE seal of approval, and you were on your way. I think the funniest debut I remember was Roseanne. She fricking killed.
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