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re: Is Tom Hanks considered one of the best actors of all time?
Posted on 2/23/13 at 7:44 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 2/23/13 at 7:44 pm to Ace Midnight
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Any reason you left out Spencer Tracy? Richard Burton? Lawrence Olivier?
I didn't leave out anybody. I just threw out some names so y'all would get the point. Literally the first good actors that came to my head.
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:28 pm to Froman
I would say yes. He's had a very impressive career and has done both comedic and dramatic roles.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:36 pm to Froman
One of the best of my time. Possibly top 3.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:52 pm to Froman
If we're talking top ten actors no way.
If we're talking top ten movie stars then we have a conversation. For some reason I hesitate putting him that high but I also don't think I can name 10 movie stars who belong ahead of him. It's a tough question and, ultimately, my answer is "maybe"
If we're talking top ten movie stars then we have a conversation. For some reason I hesitate putting him that high but I also don't think I can name 10 movie stars who belong ahead of him. It's a tough question and, ultimately, my answer is "maybe"
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:13 pm to Froman
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I didn't leave out anybody. I just threw out some names so y'all would get the point. Literally the first good actors that came to my head.
And that's fair - I consider Clint a great movie star who occasionally delivered an outstanding acting performance. Ditto for John Wayne. The problem with the lead actors is that they're typically cast because the filmmakers see that actor in the role. Rarely do lead actors truly bring something a little different to the role (not saying they couldn't - it wasn't what they got paid for) - Bogey was Bogey in about 70 films. However, look at Treasure of the Sierra Madre, African Queen and Caine Mutiny - his essence was still in those peformances, but he was able to deliver something extra.
The Duke was able to do that in The Shootist, playing both an homage to himself, somewhat of a parody and a commentary on his own mortality.
As a lead actor, Hanks consistently delivers a wider range of performances than is the norm (as does Denzel Washington.)
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:23 pm to Ace Midnight
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As a lead actor, Hanks consistently delivers a wider range of performances than is the norm (as does Denzel Washington.)
You can't leave Leo out of that discussion. I feel like he is especially great at adapting to roles, doing different things all while still holding on to that "Leo" vibe. Much like Hanks. I think that's a good thing.
Take Daniel Day Lewis on the other end of the spectrum. An actor who completely loses himself in a role to the extent that you often forget that you're watching a DDL film. He is without a doubt a more talented actor than Hanks or Leo but he doesn't have the star power they do mainly because he doesn't have a devoloped brand.
I'm not saying that either style is better than the other. I'm just saying we have to seperate the pure actors from the movie stars in these discussions.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:32 pm to Froman
Some of his work is slightly overrated. Key words "slightly" and "some".
He is most definitely a top ten actor.
He is most definitely a top ten actor.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:43 pm to Weebie
He's a damned fine actor. I think his best comedic role (which also gave a hint of his dramatic/serious chops) was Nothing In Common.
The "high points" of his resume, in my mind:
NIC
Big
Philadelphia
Forrest Gump
Castaway
Apollo 13
League of Their Own
Sleepless In Seattle
Road to Perdition
Saving Private Ryan
The Green Mile
That's a hell of a resume that shows a damned wide range and ability. I'd wager it would stack up very well next to the "greatest."
I'd put him in the Top 10.
The "high points" of his resume, in my mind:
NIC
Big
Philadelphia
Forrest Gump
Castaway
Apollo 13
League of Their Own
Sleepless In Seattle
Road to Perdition
Saving Private Ryan
The Green Mile
That's a hell of a resume that shows a damned wide range and ability. I'd wager it would stack up very well next to the "greatest."
I'd put him in the Top 10.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:44 pm to Froman
Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close
Charlie Wilson's War
The Terminal
Catch Me If You Can
Road to Perdition
Cast Away
The Green Mile
You've Got Mail
Saving Private Ryan
Apollo 13
Forrest Gump
Philadelphia
Sleepless in Seattle
A League of Their Own
Punchline
Big
The Money Pit
Bachelor Party
Splash
Fairly impressive I would say.
Charlie Wilson's War
The Terminal
Catch Me If You Can
Road to Perdition
Cast Away
The Green Mile
You've Got Mail
Saving Private Ryan
Apollo 13
Forrest Gump
Philadelphia
Sleepless in Seattle
A League of Their Own
Punchline
Big
The Money Pit
Bachelor Party
Splash
Fairly impressive I would say.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:53 pm to CottonWasKing
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You can't leave Leo out of that discussion.
I can agree that beginning with Aviator (and, maybe Gangs of New York, so credit Scorcese for getting the kid to mature) he has come miles from the plastic, 2D version of Leo in Titanic and earlier films.
Particularly the run of Departed, Shutter Island and Inception (and script selection is his friend here, as it is Hanks'), I think he is one of the best lead screen actors working.
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Take Daniel Day Lewis on the other end of the spectrum. An actor who completely loses himself in a role to the extent that you often forget that you're watching a DDL film.
Philip Seymour Hoffman is probably the only guy who can hold a candle to DDL right now - and, same thing, just doesn't quite have the star power, although that has slowly started to change (of course he's mid-40s and only has so much time left).
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:56 pm to Freauxzen
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You don't go see Tom Hanks movies because you want to see how he gets lost in a role
I agree. Guess hanks just didn't have enough Gump in him....
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:59 pm to Froman
He's so awesome in Road to Perdition.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:02 pm to Carson123987
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Road to Perdition
Great movie that never got the praise it deserves.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:08 pm to Ace Midnight
Exactly. I just don't see how you can compare those two types. The pure actor is a master of his art but is a terrible movie star. The movie star, at least the great ones, are typically talented, above average actors who put asses in seats solely because of their name.
How can you say which is better?
This is why we have to seperate the two.
How can you say which is better?
This is why we have to seperate the two.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:09 pm to flvelo12
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Great movie that never got the praise it deserves.
i know. im bout to watch it with my buddy tonight (his first time).
Why didn't it get attention? Did it come out at the same time as some blockbuster?
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:16 pm to Froman
Probably my all-time favorite.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:18 pm to CottonWasKing
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Exactly. I just don't see how you can compare those two types.
Occasionally you have a guy who has both - movie star quality and A+ acting chops - Young Brando, Richard Burton and Pacino all come to mind. Spencer Tracy and Dustin Hoffman are examples of great actors who got pressed into duty as leads, on occasion.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:18 pm to Carson123987
If I recall, people did not want to see Tom Hanks as a "bad guy". Also, it was Mendes first movie after American Beauty and it was very "scrutinized" by critics. Great story, beautifully shot, fantastic score, top notch acting from everyone involved. The more I watch it, the more I appreciate it.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:30 pm to Ace Midnight
It seems he has been focused mainly on the other side of camera in his later years.
He has had some box office success with Divinci Code and he has the upcoming movie where he plays Walt Disney as well.
2002: catch me if you can and road to perdition
2003: no movies, TV only
2004: ladykillers, the terminal, polar express
2005: narrator only
2006: Davinci code and cars
2007: Charlie Wilson's war
2008: the great buck Howard
2009: angels and demons, narrator
2010: toy story 4 and the pacific
2011: Larry crowns and stuff for you story
He has had some box office success with Divinci Code and he has the upcoming movie where he plays Walt Disney as well.
2002: catch me if you can and road to perdition
2003: no movies, TV only
2004: ladykillers, the terminal, polar express
2005: narrator only
2006: Davinci code and cars
2007: Charlie Wilson's war
2008: the great buck Howard
2009: angels and demons, narrator
2010: toy story 4 and the pacific
2011: Larry crowns and stuff for you story
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:38 pm to Froman
yea, easily
People will talk of him in 100 years. Like Chapman.
People will talk of him in 100 years. Like Chapman.
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