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re: Is The Wrath Of Khan the best sci/fi movie of all time?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:42 pm to ipodking
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:42 pm to ipodking
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ipodking
Is The Wrath Of Khan the best sci/fi movie of all time?
by ipodking
"The Day the Earth Stood Still" for me
+1,000,000
(The original 'TDTESS' from 1951 with Michael Rennie, that is :)
Others:
The Incredible Shrinking Man
The Day of the Triffids
Fantastic Voyage
The Amazing Collosal Man
Tarantula
War of the Worlds
T2
Aliens
Back to the Future
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Both movies feature the machines sending a terminator back in time to prevent john connor from becoming the leader of the resistance. The resistance is able to also send back an agent of their own to foil said plan. The two then go on a chase across Los Angeles. It's basically the same movie. T2 just ups the ante by making the terminator more powerful and replacing kyle reese with a reprogrammed t-800 (though the hero is still outgunned by the villian). Both movies even end in a similar "factory" setting.
Holy shite DS, this is like when I realized that Indy's participation is completely irrelevant to the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:16 pm to elprez00
quote:Holy shite!
Holy shite DS, this is like when I realized that Indy's participation is completely irrelevant to the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
He is completely irrelevant!
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:34 pm to elprez00
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Indy's participation is completely irrelevant
Doesn't make it not about Indy, though. We don't experience the film in 3rd person - we see it almost exclusively through Indy's perspective - he's the reason we know about all of the events.
I mean, Nick Carraway is more or less irrelevant to the plot of The Great Gatsby, but is arguably the most important character because we experience it through his perspective.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:37 pm to MetryTyger
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The original 'TDTESS' from 1951 with Michael Rennie, that is :)
And what about Forbidden Planet, then?
Leslie Nielson, Ann Francis, Walter Pidgeon.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Another vote for Blade Runner. Every frame of that film is a cinematic work of art.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:02 pm to Ace Midnight
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Doesn't make it not about Indy, though. We don't experience the film in 3rd person - we see it almost exclusively through Indy's perspective - he's the reason we know about all of the events.
I understand, but the point is if Indy doesn't make it across the pit after Alfred Molina takes the idol, then the events of the movie play out almost exactly the same way. Sure the fuel depot doesn't blow up, the big oafish guy doesn't meet a gruesome end after being shredded by a propeller, the Nazis take a little while longer to find the Ark, and we don't get that awesome Stunt show at Disney World. But the Nazis still take the arch to the island, open it, and get their faces melted off.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:05 pm to elprez00
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I understand, but the point is if Indy doesn't make it across the pit after Alfred Molina takes the idol, then the events of the movie play out almost exactly the same way.
I thought I was agreeing that Indy's involvement is irrelevant to the main story - obviously his story and adventures, romance, etc., did not impact the journey of the Ark, possibly excepting it getting into the hands of "top men" with the U.S. government.
Ditto for Nick Caraway in Gatsby.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:06 pm to elprez00
this is pretty fascinating. It's been a good while since I've seen it so my memory is sketchy. Would the nazis have found the ark if not for indy? Weren't they digging in the wrong place once, and also needed a specific piece of equipment that indy had?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:08 pm to WG_Dawg
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Weren't they digging in the wrong place once,
They were, but there were only so many locations. Belloch would've figured it out. It was the length of the staff Indy had that put him in the right chamber. Salah even says they need to hurry because the Nazis were close to figuring it out.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:56 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Very solid movie, my favorite of the trek movies.
It's in the top 10.
It's in the top 10.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Mad Max: Fury Road
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Nope that would go to Starship Trooper
Posted on 6/18/15 at 6:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Good movie. When they put that slug in the guys ear it was truly terrifying.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:42 pm to cgrand
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agree with your list but i would add serenity and 2001
I would agree on 2001 but I know that most folks don't find it very entertaining.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 9:19 pm to Fewer Kilometers
For the sake of sheer entertainment, it is imperative that Independence Day be added as one of the best.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:39 pm to JawjaTigah
Blade Runner is a good choice. I'm gonna toss Inception out there though.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:28 am to elprez00
True, but if it weren't for Indy, the ark would have stayed on that island after melting all the nazi's. It would have only been a matter of time until more nazis tracked down the last location of that group and reclaimed the ark. Thanks to Indy, it ended up securely locked away in that warehouse.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:44 am to RedPants
Someone should have mentioned The Omega Man by now.....
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:00 am to Draconian Sanctions
Maybe around 48-49 out of the top 50.
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