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Is John Wick the best pure action movie of all time?

Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:28 pm
Obligatory:



It is for me. I like this movie more and more every time I watch it. Of course, I'm an unapologetic action junkie.

It's on USA right now with interviews with Keanu at every commercial break. That dude loves his characters and his movies. He said the night club seen was 6 straight 14 hour days of fight scenes, flipping, shooting, and fun. There's a reason his action movies always look awesome. He might not be the best actor in the world but he damn sure throws his whole heart and soul into his roles. There's a reason movies like this, Martrix, and Point Break are infinitely rewatchable.




Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:30 pm to
Pretty sure, The Raid took that title.

Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:34 pm to
First



Second

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:36 pm to
But pure action isn't just about action...

It's about the movie having little redeeming qualities beyond the action.

John Wick has an actual story - so that disqualifies it as the best pure action movie of all time.

The Expendables franchise?

Con Air is?

300?

London Has Fallen might be up there - damn that movie was seriously bad.

All of the above are seriously retarded movies that are nothing but mindless action.

John Wick tries to be something more - so no, it's not the best pure action movie.

I think John Wick and Payback are very similar with Mel Gibson.

Actually I think John Wick is a rip-off of Payback.

Shame Payback doesn't get the love John Wick gets.

Because Payback is a better film than John Wick.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:36 pm to
What do you consider better?

About the only movie id consider is Die Hard.
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:37 pm to
I like the Money Pit
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:37 pm to
No
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:38 pm to
It's up there for sure. I still think Die Hard and The Killer might be more complete films, but the Action scenes are top notch.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

But pure action isn't just about action... It's about the movie having little redeeming qualities beyond the action. John Wick has an actual story - so that disqualifies it as the best pure action movie of all time.


In that case, it's just straight up the best movie in the last decade
Posted by airfernando
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:39 pm to
Wick is good not great, so it can't be all time best.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

The Raid


And this. John Wick is in that group.
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:49 pm to
Hard to beat the Raid.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:51 pm to
Nope. The Raid: Redemption
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

John Wick has an actual story




good script? yes
funny dialogue? yes
good story? no. it's a typical revenge movie
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

good story? no. it's a typical revenge movie


I actually think it's more than that. It's about redemption and loss as much as revenge. It also explores a rather unique setting and world that brings it out of typical revenge movie, IMO.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35499 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:09 pm to
quote:


good story? no. it's a typical revenge movie


Yeah but it's not pure action. That was the OP contention. And its a good revenge film.

John Wick is very much like Payback (albeit Payback has a better story) - but

Pure action...no...I think John Wick tries to be a story...it's a weak story but it tries to set the table.

Chuck Norris has some films that are more pure action and far less of a story. Invasion U.S.A. - 1985?

Stallone? Rambo 2008?

Again, 300?

Body counts on these movies are insane.

This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

But pure action isn't just about action...

It's about the movie having little redeeming qualities beyond the action.

John Wick has an actual story - so that disqualifies it as the best pure action movie of all time.

The Expendables franchise?

Con Air is?

300?

London Has Fallen might be up there - damn that movie was seriously bad.

All of the above are seriously retarded movies that are nothing but mindless action.

John Wick tries to be something more - so no, it's not the best pure action movie.

I think John Wick and Payback are very similar with Mel Gibson.

Actually I think John Wick is a rip-off of Payback.

Shame Payback doesn't get the love John Wick gets.

Because Payback is a better film than John Wick.

You abuse the enter key more than peej abuses caps lock
Posted by Carson123987
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

unique setting and world


this is why I said "good script." I just dont think the story is some unique, original thing to praise - the world is.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:52 pm to
Have an up vote, my 'n
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:56 pm to
Smoking Aces is a sleeper pick
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