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re: I Want More Hard Sci-Fi - Why are there so few good movies in this genre?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:46 pm to blueboy
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:46 pm to blueboy
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Okay, I just realized that this means The Motion Picture. I retract my comment. Carry on, then.
Yeah - he's talking about the range of "real" ST movies, not the stuff since Nemesis.
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:04 am to Freauxzen
quote:can't recommend this enough
Edge of Tomorrow
Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:31 am to StringedInstruments
there's a movie in the works with matt damon called 'the martian' that will be the ultimate hard sci-fi
based on a very good novel of the same name
LINK
based on a very good novel of the same name
LINK
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:16 am to Ace Midnight
Figured Ace would back me up there. I'm pretty sure weve had that conversation before in another thread.
BTW, I finally watched Moon last month. I'd seen it thrown around a bunch here, and rented it. Fantastic.
BTW, I finally watched Moon last month. I'd seen it thrown around a bunch here, and rented it. Fantastic.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:19 am to StringedInstruments
I really wish the Foundation series would make it to film.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:20 am to blueboy
I was wondering 
I thought every sci Fi fan liked that movie. It's boring, but in a good way
Wrath of khan is the better movie
I thought every sci Fi fan liked that movie. It's boring, but in a good way
Wrath of khan is the better movie
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:23 am to Freauxzen
im exhausted by the Jules Verne/ HG Wells debate
You shut your mouth Jules. Star Wars is sci fi/fantasy...SCI FI/fantasy
You shut your mouth Jules. Star Wars is sci fi/fantasy...SCI FI/fantasy
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:46 am to StringedInstruments
As others said, Ex Machina is out now. The Martian with Matt Damon is coming out at the end of the year. It's like Apollo 13 meets Hard Sci-Fi. The Expanse TV series on Syfy this fall is based of a good hard sci fi book series. Have you seen Oblivion?
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:52 am to MSTiger33
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I really wish the Foundation series would make it to film.
HBO has been kicking around the series for years. Looks like it finally may actually happen.
HBO and Warner Bros. TV are teaming to produce a series based on Isaac Asimov’s “Foundation” trilogy that will be written and produced by “Interstellar” writer Jonathan Nolan, multiple individuals familiar with the project have told TheWrap.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:53 am to geauxjuice
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there's a movie in the works with matt damon called 'the martian' that will be the ultimate hard sci-fi
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directed by Ridley Scott
ugh
Posted on 5/6/15 at 8:54 am to Carson123987
I hadn't realized he's the director. We share a lot of the same opinions.
We share a lot of the same opinions. Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:02 am to colorchangintiger
I also have to say, if you're really into Science Fiction and lament that there aren't more hard SciFi films, you should really start reading books. I've read some FAN frickING TASTIC books that have almost been detrimental to my enjoyment of SciFi films due to the massive scale that the books can tackle vs a 2-3 hour film. A good list to start if you're into hard sci fi Space Operas:
The Commonwealth Saga
The Foundation Series
The Expanse Series
Revelation Space
Also, Neal Stephenson's new book is coming out in a couple weeks. It's called Seveneves and I'm anticipating it being very good.
The Commonwealth Saga
The Foundation Series
The Expanse Series
Revelation Space
Also, Neal Stephenson's new book is coming out in a couple weeks. It's called Seveneves and I'm anticipating it being very good.
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From the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Anathem, Reamde, and Cryptonomicon comes an exciting and thought-provoking science fiction epic—a grand story of annihilation and survival spanning five thousand years.
What would happen if the world were ending?
A catastrophic event renders the earth a ticking time bomb. In a feverish race against the inevitable, nations around the globe band together to devise an ambitious plan to ensure the survival of humanity far beyond our atmosphere, in outer space.
But the complexities and unpredictability of human nature coupled with unforeseen challenges and dangers threaten the intrepid pioneers, until only a handful of survivors remain . . .
Five thousand years later, their progeny—seven distinct races now three billion strong—embark on yet another audacious journey into the unknown . . . to an alien world utterly transformed by cataclysm and time: Earth.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 9:21 am
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:09 am to elprez00
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I'd seen it thrown around a bunch here, and rented it. Fantastic.
Moon is one of the best science fiction films in years, no question.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:11 am to Ace Midnight
first contact and insurrection fricking suck
all the next generation movies suck. it's why I'll never watch the next generation tv show
all the next generation movies suck. it's why I'll never watch the next generation tv show
Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:42 am to DelU249
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first contact
We agree on a lot of things, just not this.
I'm not a big fan of either Insurrection or Nemesis - but they're both watchable. "Real" Star Trek is a great example of hard sci fi, with a good dose of adventure and fun.
Generations was cumbersome, no question, but was executed well in the grand scheme of things. First Contact might be the 3rd best ST film - I put it fourth, sentimentally, but is The Voyage Home really better? Heck, on some days, FC might be better than TSFS AND TVH, making it second - although that batch, along with the much maligned TMP are the best of the crop.
And where do we rank Galaxy Quest?
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 9:43 am
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:00 am to Ace Midnight
I love galaxy quest. it's the greatest compliment to star trek tos as well as an excellent parody of the fan loyalty that makes it special
i'll back off first contact a little bit, if only because the borg are a menacing threat; however, the time travel aspect (why they had to time travel at the location with all of the federation ships) as well as the ending confrontation with the queen are incredibly nonsensical.
the really good question is
Star Trek the Motion Picture or Wrath of Khan (of course I'm going to vote Khan)
and
last crusade or temple of doom (temple of doom by a mile) - related to the Jurassic park thread
i'll back off first contact a little bit, if only because the borg are a menacing threat; however, the time travel aspect (why they had to time travel at the location with all of the federation ships) as well as the ending confrontation with the queen are incredibly nonsensical.
the really good question is
Star Trek the Motion Picture or Wrath of Khan (of course I'm going to vote Khan)
and
last crusade or temple of doom (temple of doom by a mile) - related to the Jurassic park thread
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:05 am to DelU249
Andromeda Strain.
Very hard sci-fi. And when the book and film hit, we were heavily into the space race.
Very hard sci-fi. And when the book and film hit, we were heavily into the space race.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:09 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Andromeda Strain.
One of the better book/film combos out there, I might add.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:15 am to DelU249
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Star Trek the Motion Picture or Wrath of Khan (of course I'm going to vote Khan)
Wrath of Khan is one of the best films, regardless of genre. It has something for everyone. Obviously fans of TOS are likely to enjoy it the most, but it is a better film than TMP. TMP only had about an hour of plot (and that makes sense) - so, instead of fluffing that up with a half dozen character development sequences, even catching up with the characters, whatever - they chose to extend the gorgeous special effects space travel scenes - almost like he was trying to make up for how bad TOS looked at times, either in space or with the budget limitations on their effects, generally, in the 1960s.
Regardless, the film is unfairly criticized, when it has a classic Trek story (eerily similar to the plot of the TOS episode, The Changeling, which had a similar, although much smaller Terran probe merged with an alien probe), and for that part of it, was very well done.
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last crusade or temple of doom (temple of doom by a mile)
I was going to debate you on this - but neither film is particularly "hard" sci-fi. I enjoy Last Crusade better, but, much like TMP, I think Temple of Doom is unfairly criticized.
Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:26 am to Ace Midnight
I don't think they're sci fi at all, it's just a good topic of debate since you brought up raiders in the other thread
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